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ECU needs power supply to operate... But how was the exact install ? If no supply after 20 seconds, how did that happen ?

Warning: this page is based on heresay, because no wiring or install docs of any kind was made available (or made at all).

May, or may not reflect the exact situation. However, might ring a bell, perhaps someone might have seen sg. similar or recommend best practices to make the install smoother (or simpler to understand, diagnose), less likely to cause surprise.


Inductive loads are best driven from

P259 only if none of the above are available.

Even fuel pump relay (except if driven from low current, logiclevel signal).


The main relay can be special, eg. if the driven load is powered (eg. main relay) even when EC36/23 (injector +supply) is not

P259 outputs have added low voltage (SMB diode) flyback (inside VEMS ECU-s) since 2015 (v3.8 and v3.8b).

This provides added current protection, but an added diode (external, in the harness, or internal, in the ECU on request)

might be necessary if the driven load is powered (eg. main relay) even when EC36/23 (injector +supply) is not

to prevent unintentional turnon, or "prelling".


Tricks to drive main relay

Some installers configured (MISC1 or) MISC2 output to drive the main relay always (0..25500 RPM 0..510kPa, etc...) when ECU is powered up.

This may, or may not be a good idea. We review the install/wiring plans of any such install.


An ECU was sent for inspection (without harness, or car), with symptom

The ECU worked perfectly, tested with +12V supply voltage on EC36/25

Of course, without any (otherwise obligatory) install docs (or even just minimal wiring docs, still not provided, so reproducing the setup cannot be done, we can do some guesswork instead), it was not clear

The same ECU worked perfectly when fuel pump relay was driven (as recommended) from ignition IGBT instead of p259.

Perhaps somehow the "self holding" MISC output can release (perhaps just for a quick moment) after about 20 seconds instead of being always active ?


[ 2 configs are very different]

Checked config from Android logs against reference 6cyl config


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