Car: 1984 Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera, 3.2liter 6cyl boxer aircooled, from factory Motronic 1.0 with 35pin connector, currently VEMS plug and play using factory harness (TPS, MAT, WB added), batch fire (two banks of 3 injectors, low-z), stock coil (max dwell 2,1 ms stock) and distributor.
Q: EC36/13 with cam-HALL inverter ?
- connected or left open ?
A: No CAM inverter, left open, EC36/13, can take photo of sectrig hardware setup.
129+1 auditrigger (but with separate tooth ring and pin not reading starter ring).
The auditrigger was made by audi to read the starter ring (sectrig also timed from pin on crankshaft ), that setup is supported by VEMS (proven, works reasonably reliably).
- Why using 129 tooth if not reading starter ring ?
- why not using 60-2 or 36-2 or 24-2 tooth in that case (with separate tooth ring) ? A: 129+1 is factory setup and preferred way to have plug and play kit to work. Bosch was using all kind of peculiar triggers before 60-2 patent was expired (iirc 1986) and then started using this. Here's photo of how stock setup looks like:
- What is the exact sectrig setup ?
- how precisely timed relative to the crankshaft ? (eg. reading pulse from the camshaft will not work).
Problem: shows trigger error ("tooth length bad" and occasionally doubles RPM causing VEMS to hit RPM revlimiter. Very dangerous situation and need to resolve it.
Here are log and vemscfg, engine runs otherwise nicely.
http://www.vems.hu/files/PeepPaadam/911.vemscfg
http://www.vems.hu/files/PeepPaadam/911_3.2_v3.3_u019379-2020.07.06-14.59.51.vemslog
IMPORTANT : triggerlog is imperative to reproduce and verify setup see InputTrigger/TriggerLog
1) To take triggerlog, first apply the following config changes, burn and power cycle ecu afterwards:
- primary trigger config:
- special trigger type: normal
- tdc after trigger: 60 deg
- number of teeth of full cycle: 129
- first trigger tooth: 0
- next trigger tooth: 43
- angular width of tooth: 2.75
- all further drop-downs below disabled.
2) Than proceed to taking triggerlog in format:
- engine cranking 8-10 seconds without INJ and IGN fuses
3) Upload triggerlog here, also provide vemscfg of configuration used during taking of the triggerlog.
After receiving the required data to facilitate remote review of your trigger issue, i will start investigation.
Best regards,
Dave
- secondary_trigger=0x19
Is there a chance the cam-HALL window (rising or falling edge) is very close to the crankhome-VR pulse (sometimes before/after)?
- if cam-HALL is used, scopeshot would be needed to verify that. (if constant GND with camhall inverter, or constant +5V without cam-HALL inverter, than cam-HALL scopeshot not needed)
- sectrig scopeshot still needed