My plan is to make the RadioBoard to be real, look also VemsFrontier/Bluetooth
I got Volvo Amazon with B20.
I mounted a 36-1 toothwheel to crank from Ford (it's like [this]) and Honeywell GT101 hall sensor. I set air gap to 1.2mm, connected sensor to 9v battery and 10k pull-up resistor to output. When I manually rotate the engine dvm showed near 0v when tooth was near the sensor and 9v when no tooth, like it should. I even tried to rotate engine faster and I saw good pulsing with scope. I started the engine (currently coil trigger, v2 genboard) output was most of the time low. Frequency should have been ~600Hz idle but it was only ~60Hz or less! I tried to move sensor closer (much less than 1mm) to toothwheel and away from wheel 2mm or more. No help, signal was the same. So I moved sensor as far as about 4-5mm and it started to work! GT101 sensor specs says air gap 1.02-2.03mm. Now it's atleast double.
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I did try power sensor from adjustable power supply and also tried 1k pull-up resistor. Neither did help. Sensor is mounted so when no tooth it has no metal in front of it and when tooth is front of it metal is much over sensors centerline. Sensor has built in capacitor between vcc/gnd.
Why? Should I use it like it work (~4-5mm away from triggerwheel) or what should I do?
''It's hard to give advice in this matter, one thing is sure and that is that the trigger wheel is not suitable for a GT sensor. But I have used the GT sensor a lot and have used it far outside it's specifications with good and bad results. What I do know is that the sensor is self adjusting, you'll notice this if you put a piece of steel in front of it at 1mm distance and then move it to 7mm distance. It will go high for a while and then selfadjust to see the steel again
I think this is what happens with the trigger wheel you have, it sees the solid disk for some reason, probably because there is not enough material in the trigger teeth. Moving the sensor further from the solid disk in the axial direction (of the crank) could help.
I'm pretty anal about triggers and I can only advice you to make sure that it behaves predictable at all rpms before you start loading the engine. I have seen very expensive failures because of non consistent trigger arrangements.
If you choose to make a new trigger wheel you should know that the GT1 sensor does not work well with trigger made up of large raised areas with smaller lower areas as a trigger wheel made by drilling holes. This is because of the self adjusting feature.''
Thanks, this was helpful (I got sleep that night). Triggerwheel is welded to crank pulley, so my plan is to change GT1 to something else and I have one M12 threaded hall sensor to be tested. This sensor also has some adjusting feature, but it's magnet is much weaker and I table tested and it has some hysteresis (I think) but it does not adjust much (if at all). Is this wheel originally made to be used with VR sensor?
My system is even now only fuel, so I tested GT1 with about 5mm distance. While cranking LCD (and Fluke&scope) sees signal, LCD says ~200rpm which is correct but engine did not start, I think there was no fuel at all? I also saw from scope that there are some false triggering. I didn't remember to watch Wxx on lcd, if there is false triggering Wxx grows and genboard does not give fuel, right?
My conf was pretty much this, could someone confirm these:\nÿ1ÿ
1 trigger pulse per crankrot
- is only good for fuel injection
- not good for spark unless for a 2cyl. sorry for the confusion
btw, I'm a bit puzzled, from above it seems you have 36-1 crankwheel.
4cyl Mazda-BP are triggered from cam sensor with 2 (evenly spaced) trigger pulses per crankrot (4 triggerpulse per cam-rev), eg. MembersPage/Fero.
D-jetronic distributor has 2 extra triggers without advance (I'm thinking connecting them in parallel).
I tried quickly these 2 extra triggers (yes evenly spaced) in parallel triggering genboard controlling fuel only, before that my genboard v2 was trigged from the coil (divider=02), so with divider=01 engine started. I'm wondering is how (in config) can only 1 trig/rev be used for spark (2 spark/rev, 1 coil and distributor) when using coil-type, eg. primary_trigger=07?
There is no config to support coil setup sparking twice for every trigger-pulse (not for v2 nor v3). In fact we encourage TDC being placed 60..90 crankdegrees after trigger pulse. With mentioned setup one TDC would be 60..90, but the other would be 240..270 crankdegrees away, which is not good at all (unprecise).
For coil-type setup there will be 1 ignition event for 1 trigger event (or less if set h[2] and ignch_max).
Only way I can think to do this is to set up trigger1 to multitooth and config so that there are missing tooth between these 2 trigger event (in my case both are ~70' BTDC, first cyl 1 and second cyl 4). But I didn't get it working at all. I' not sure what you mean. Multitooth config will work for 36-1, but there is no way it will work with 1 triggerpulse per crankrot.