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Input variables where Inj_out is dependant of with vapourised injection

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injection pulsewidth calculation

  • Fueltemperature PW*MULTIPLIERtemperature uses a look-up table (NTC) \ MembersPage/NTC

Density of a gas (eg. air) by universal gas law: proportional to 1/T (so multiply calculated fuel amount by Tref / T, both in degrees K: traditionally called "airdenfactor" that we make match matfactor - see EasyTherm)

For liquid injection, the liquid flowrate (through an injector) is proportional to sqrt(pressure) so we need to multiply fuel pw with (pressure ^ -0.5).

How to know pressure (over the injector!) is another question.

The pressure over the injector can be calculated with MAP and Fuelpressure. This should be regulated to a set value but with for example a fuel cut-off this can increase. The regulator is linked to the MAP so pressure over the injector should always be the same.


The problem seems to be pretty simple I'd make a formula of constants and two variables. These variables are Fuel_temperature in Kelvin and Fuel_Pressure in kPa. The outcome of this formula must be the density of LPG at a certain temperature and pressure. For an ideal gas this indeed is pretty simple. The formula use would be The universal gaslaw. The problem is this universal gaslaw only aplies to ideal gasses. Therefore this can't be used for propane and butane.

P*V=n*R*T

R=8,34157 [J/mol*Kelvin]

n=nr of mol

T=temperature in Kelvin

V=volume in M^3

P=pressure in kPa

When I rearange the formula looks like this: P/T=(R*n)/V. With R, n and V being constants P/T are linked to each other and when set into a graph this should be a linar function. When you look at the graphs shown below it becomes clear that the graphs don't match. Therefore the formula isn't right!

One must keep in mind the universal gaslaw doesn't apply non-ideal gasses like propane and butane.

'I'm going insane here. I can't figure this out on my own. I'll try to get some help'

Why do you want the formula to match ?

In the tank, you have boiling liquid (not simply gas). Pretty much the same way as in your coolant system >100C. It self regulates itself;

So the graphs are the boiling point at certain pressures. (shown rotated 90 degrees compared to traditional representation: pressure for certain temp, instead of temp for certain pressure)

If you have numeric representation of the tables, we can make an approximating formula, from a reasonable function

Example for octave.org function to fit a parametric curves on numeric data stored in "transferfunc.dat" file columns 1:2 :\n

f(x) = a*x*x*x + b*x*x + c*x + d + e/x)
fit f(x) "transferfunc.dat" using 1:2 via a, b, c, d, e
plot "transferfunc.dat" using 1:2 with points 6, f(x)



Nice data sheets for gasses:

http://www.airliquide.com/en/business/products/gases/gasdata/index.asp?GasID=53

With this graph of pressure and temperature of Propane:

Propane_Vapor_Pressure.GIF

Same graph for butane-n. No surprise that boiling point for certain pressure is higher than for propane (tends to stay in liquid for higher temp, since the butane molecules are longer):

Butane_Vapor_Pressure.GIF