Audi 5 cyl (firing order 1,2,4,5,3)
Trigger c010
HALL / HALL
- primtrig HALL 5 pulse on crank
- sectrig HALL 1 pulse on cam
Outputs (v3/20216 6 IGBT + 2 logiclevel)
important: Ignition
- old: M & W from IGBT outputs
- new: TFSI: logiclevel output for active coils
- Use: 4 stepper outputs + 1 logiclevel ignout
- eg. EC18/4,5,10,11 and EC36/11
Ignition outputs. IGBT outputs, for old install. BAD choice for active coils, see above ! See GenBoard/Manual/IgnitionOutput
Ign 1cyl EC18-pin4
Ign 2cyl EC18 pin5
Ign 3cyl EC18 pin10
Ign 4cyl EC18-pin11
Ign 5cyl EC36-pin11
Hint: connect one output first, and test from VemsTune (ignition output testing). Make sure not to blow coils with misconfiguration (accidentally configuring as other output, activating output continuously)
Injector outputs. Order is weird (not in firing order)
inj cyl1, EC36-pin7, INJ-A
inj cyl2, EC36-pin20, INJ-D
inj cyl3, EC36-pin9, INJ-E
inj cyl4, EC36-pin19, INJ-B
inj cyl5, EC36-pin8, INJ-C
Inj+ EC36-pin23 flyback: good
Inputs
TPS EC36-pin 1
TPS supply EC36-pin 29
TPS pin 1 ground
Sec trigger HALL pin1 EC36-pin13
Pri trigger HALL pin1 EC36-pin 27
EC36-pin 28sec-pri trigger pin2 +5v
Sec-Pri trigger pin3 ground
IAT EC36-pin2
IAT 2pin ground
CLT EC36-pin 14
CLT 2pin ground
Other outputs
NOT USED: ALS EC18-pin 16 (p259/1) ???
- solenoid connected to p259/1 might cause damage
- detail (resistance, max current ??) if in use, rethink
- prefer a free injector output (or ignition IGBT output)
RPM actuator output EC18-pin17 (inj-H)
- inj output should be safe, but is this shiftlight ?
- or variable intake solenoid ?
- what exactly ? Measured resistance ?
fuel pump relay EC36-pin15
- prefer a free injector output (or ignition IGBT output, or stepper output), p259 only as a last chance
WBO2 EC18-pin 7,13,18,9
WBO2 +12v 5A fuse
- EC36 pin 5,21,22,26,32 ground
- EC36-pin 25 vems supply +12v
See
- FileArea
- GenBoard/Manual/IgnitionOutput
- GenBoard/Manual/DigitalOut/Table
- VemsTuneVersion See Validate feature !
gyujtas kivezerlest modositottam az ec18 pin 4,5,10,11 ec36 pin 11 .teszt modba van szikra,de viszont injektor kivezerles nincs teszt modba sem,a +12v-ot megkapja
Megoldodott a befecskendezes!
Igncoil part nr: 07K 905 715F
Engine was running !
2020-06-10, while ignition ON:
- ECU fuse was blown
- Via telephone, the fuse blown during ignition/spark testing ! (very important information !)
- See below !
- Since than fuse is blown after each ignition ON attempt, even if only ECU is connected...
- all sensors disconnected
- sensors should not matter much, but outputs also disconnected, assumedly ?
VAG active coil COP Igncoil 4 pin U shaped connector, Pinout:
- pin1 +12v (via relay, but NO FUSE !!! )
- pin2 GND
- pin3 ECU output (stepper or logiclevel ignout)
- pin4 GND
This seems to match pinout (from [webshop]
- but using fuses is mandatory. 1 fuse (5A) / channel for correct installs,
- or a shared fuse (15A) for sloppy installs
During spark testing, was the sparkplug grounded ?
- Eg. touched to cylinder head (which was grounded) ?
- yes, all 5 sparkplugs were removed, and grounded to cyl head (according to the quick phone interview)
- note that it is very easy to make some mistake during this test ;
- do we know if all the 5 igncoils survived, or some got damaged ?
[vemscfg config file] Reviewed digoaudiAAN.vemscfg :
- config validate warns about partial fuelcut enabled
- but that should not cause issues during spark test;
- I don't see any issues in config that should cause it (dwell configured 1ms, ign_dwellmap = 1).
- Dave's best guess would be: some wiring problem