Hello, here comes the Daihard enthusiast howto install the GenBoard/VerThree into the charade GTti wich is a 3cyl 12valve Turbo car.
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16-10-2004
Yes got my V3.2 board thx Marcell !!
Well looking at it evrything looks nice,
got the O2 sensor as tge EGT asswell now assembly time :)
Altough the first problem lights up searching the site:
Found a couple of schematics (GenBoard/Manual/InitialTesting/VerThree), with a partslayout on the board but the parts are numbered like U20 or d33 well I understand that but couldn't find a BOM list where the numbers are explained. Well gonne try anyway :)
The schematic has the values for given components - except for some cheats and convenience we maintain in CVS bin/categories.* as on GenBoard/ManuFacturing
Well thing starting to lighting up added a page MembersPage/Daihard/Assembling ...
21-09-2004
Q: When i use 3 evenly spaced magnets at the cranck can i still use dwell control and sequential injection?
A: Yes, but you need to add a cam position sensor //Emil
Q: OK thx emil, car fitted with cam sensors standard.
What is the added benefit from having a multi-tooth wheel then? The multitooth wheel allows more precise and faster diagnostics, should anythink happen (ECU can realize faster and safer that something is wrong).
Cause it cant get easier then glueing on 3 magnets :) Just make sure they won't come off...
cars fitted with a Coil on plug
http://www.ignitionsolutions.com/downloads/applications.pdf
Coil on plug length. http://www.kingsborne.com/beruconn.htm
beru nr|beru ref nr| connection|length in mm|ohms
ZLE 232|(BMW) 0.300.122.102|M4|117|2000
ZLE 233|(Audi/VW) 0.300.122.103|M4|122|5000
ZLE 234|(Mercedes) 0.300.122.111|M4|113|2000
Plug length from top of cover in CB80 GTti is 117mm .
bid on 6-BMW COP units on eBay 21-09-2004
04-05-2004 After some reading http://www.sdsefi.com/EM4MANF.htm
I think using 3 HALL magnets 1 fitted 80° before TDC and evenly spaced 120° from the first magnet in combination with the 24-1 theeth cam ref signal is a good way to start.
?: Using the 3theeth triggerwheel as secondary check signal?
The engine is fitted with 2 magnetic signal sensors(HALL) fitted in the dizzy attached and driven by the exhaust camshaft.
But what is the pulse-pattern ?
-> first has 3 evenly spaced theeth; second has 24 theeth sensor placed 180° opposite of the 3theeth sensor;(I'll post a picture this week)
24tooth gives cam position reference,3 tooth cilinder firing order.
I setup a page here [url]http://www.vems.hu/index.php?page=MembersPage%2FDaihard[/url] so with help of the board we should beable to have system up and running in 6months? :lol:
From the manual CB80 ignition timing is constant 10° crankdegrees before TDC firing order 123.
Firing is 240° cranck rotation after each other and 3-tooth wheel matches TDC of piston
At the cam we have a HALL signal (not HAL:)).
Any suggestions please?
ANSWERS AND SUGGESTIONS:
A 6-1 tooth CAM signal would be perfect.
Or 3 (evenly spaced) crankpulses and 1 campulse.
[cb80] Dizzy standard fitted with 2 HALL sensors cam driven
- one with 3thooth wheel.
- one with a 24 thooth wheel.
size, specs?
Electronic controlled throttle type;
3xDENSO 23250-87701-000 295cc/min,
Injector fuel pressure rating = 2,5bar (Manual)
Pump 80 litres/hour
Denso injectors 13.8 ohms
fitted on fuel rail with fuel regulator
- PortInjected/SequentialInjection would be nice,
note: it's not about when to start injecting, but rather when to end injection (although the injector pulsewidth makes the connection, of course)
clubsite url http://www.daihard.org/
club forum url http://forums.eis.net.au/index.php
download - > http://www.vems.hu/files/misc/GETFIRM.ZIP
download - > Avr-gcc compiler: http://sourceforge.net/projects/winavr Download latest stable WINAVR package (18MB)and install
then
did you tried this:
go to dos: cmd.exe
then: cd c:\vems\myfirmware\directory
make clean [enter]
sh [enter]
make all [enter]
exit [enter]
in dos box goto firmware/bin directry cd \bin
type : prog.pl vems.hex -wt
suc6 :)
Note: if perl not works with the serialport:
type in the dos box: ppm install win32-api
then download and install http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/cpan/authors/id/B/BB/BBIRTH/Win32-SerialPort-0.19.tar.gz
unzip in temp folder
and in a dos box enter
perl Makefile.PL [optional PORT]example [COM2] default is com1
perl test.pl
perl install.pl
close all com2 connections ie disconnect the genboard and close all terminal programs and connections.
Type install.pl in a DOS Box and files will be installed.
Type test.pl in the Dos box and the com port being tested.
http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=MembersPage%2FJohanEriksson%2FVerThreeFirmForDummies