IgnitionPage (2005-01-11 12:54:12)

The Ignition Pages

This area discuss some of the ignition options that are available on GenBoard. Along with that, are discussions about timing technique, parts, availability, and other research.


Ignition Topics

EdisIgnition - Ford EDIS System where we calculate the spark advance, send (1536 - spark_adv_degrees * 25.6 ) usec SAW pulse to EDIS, and EDIS takes care of the actual ignition timing relative to crank position, dwell control and spark generation. EDIS uses it's own VR input from 36-1 timing (crank-)wheel so you'll have to add this to your crank.
DwellControlIgnition -
DummyIgnition - Taking care of dwell control. To make sure the coil is charged sufficiently.
IgnCalc
IgnitionPage/COP - Coil Over Plug technologies.
TimingLight - See this page for a very simple DIY timing light

IgnitionPage/UnderDevelopment


Q: are the COP off a BMW M5 3.5,3.6, or 3.8ltr diffrent?

what do

measurements suggest? If they fit mechanically, there shouldn't be any difference electrically. Maybe minor difference in dwell, but hardly anything that couldn't be configured easily.

Q: how can I use GM LS1 (???) smart coils which have built in drivers. Can you get some links to the documentation ? Maybe aliases (other names for the same , part numbers) ?

In the worst case, you can scope the signals while running on an alien system, and test on the table to verify.

Is there any chance that there is no such thing as "GM LS1 smart coils" because LS1 is a car (corvette?) ?


LSX are 3rd gen chevy engines

LS1 >> C5 corvettes, 98+ f-bodys, Holden Munaro, Commodore and ( chevy caprice and lumina in the Middle East)

LS6 >> Z06 corvettes

LS2 >> C6 corvettes and 2005+ pontiac GTO

LS7 >> will be on corvette Z07

there are also 2000+ truck VORTEC engines that have the same ignition system but with hotter sparks

each of these engines has 8 coils "CNP" and uses a variable reluctance type camshaft position sensor

http://www.motorage.com/motorage/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=20037

I've read that these coils have built in drivers and considred as smart coils

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26513

pics

ls1_coils.jpg

http://www.ls1howto.com/howto/geniii/rockers/pics/010assembled.jpg?PHPSESSID=c24200b4092fc30886c3cc19c696f513

http://www.vettenet.org/ls1-5.html

download this pdf file it has some info about LS1 ignition system

[LS1.pdf] According to the drawing the "smart coil" has an NPN inside (maybe same type that Keith bought the other day). However it might just be a draft. It's easy to verify (eg. with DVM: the Base-Emitter of an NPN drops about 600mV).


Here, you can buy several ignition coils, wires and several usefull things: http://www.nology.com/products.html