History of MembersPage/RallyeNLD/Trigger
Older Newer
2007-09-05 14:32:48 . . . . MembersPage/RallyeNLD [Updated information]
2007-06-20 07:17:23 . . . . cp366383-a.venra1.lb.home.nl [updated values]
2007-06-06 13:34:04 . . . . MembersPage/RallyeNLD [Triggering explained plus questions]
2007-06-06 11:49:53 . . . . MembersPage/RallyeNLD [indexing]
2007-06-06 11:44:04 . . . . MembersPage/RallyeNLD [Triggering]


Changes by last author:

Changed:
Trigger data (firmware 1.0.69)

----

Primary triggering:

60-2 no camsync, 4 cylinder using firmware 1.1.12

* batch injection

* wasted spark ignition

* stock Peugeot (Magneti Marelli?) VR sensor (3 wire)

flywheeltimingsmallwr3.png

Changed:
Currently using the stock Peugeot (Magneti Marelli) triggering. It uses a 60-2 flywheel with VR sensor. The first tooth after the missing tooth is at 120 degrees before TDC of cylinder 1.
Trigger timing is as shown in the picture. Running direction is Counter Clockwise (wrt picture), 1st and 4th cylinder are at TDC. BTDC = 120 degrees. $FlgChr1$FlgChr> $FlgChr2$FlgChr> Relevant trigger parameters:

primary_trigger=01

secondary_trigger=02

tooth_wheel=3A

trigger_tooth=0A

another_trigger_tooth=1E

crank_minper=50

tooth_wheel_twidth1=18 (decimal 24, that is 6 degrees)

tooth_wheel_twidth2=48 (decimal 72, that is 18 degrees)

ign_tdcdelay=78

ign_crank_advance=12

ign_out=70

ignchmax=03

Changed:
Config:

primary_trigger=01 # multitooth, rising edge

secondary_trigger=02 # disabled/not available

tooth_wheel=3A # 60-2 = 58 teeth

trigger_tooth=02 # first tooth after missing tooth

another_trigger_tooth=1E # trigger 180 degrees later = 30 teeth later

crank_minper=EA # Others have 50

tooth_wheel_twidth1=02

tooth_wheel_twidth2=06

h[0]=0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

h[2]=00 10 00 10 00 10 00 10

Changed:
Secondary trigger:

Currently the engine does not have a secondary trigger. I will therefor run batch injection and wasted spark. After I know the ins and outs of this setup i will use a secondary trigger for sequential injection and coil on plug for better control.

Previous problems to learn from:

I had issues with the triggering of the engine. The engine didn't run properly when set up for 120 degrees (trigger_tooth=0A and ign_tdcdelay=0x78; 10*6 + 120*0.5 = 120 degrees)). Remarkely it did run when setup for 60 degrees.

Changed:
I think a VR sensor is easiest to apply. More about that later.
Although it is not clear what exactly caused the timing problem, after using [ALSfix] my problem was over and the engine started with the correct timing.