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Everyone suggested to change to a 16valve engine instead of the 8 valve factory engine. Now the new 16 valve engine is in there. There were uncertainties if the Daewoo engine would fit, but it did fit beautifully: A16DMS engine is really the same interface as X16SZR (or X16XE or almost any Opel/Daewoo/Vauxhall engine for that matter).

Problem

But the turbo won't fit. The KKK k03 turbo is not particularly big, but still won't fit. I would need to take out the air conditioner, but I don't like the idea.

Than we didn't mention the airbox and charge cooler - that are also almost impossible to fit nicely without opening the hood.

It's likely that this car stays NA (1.6L 107Hp), and I get a 4WD car with bigger engine compartment (and probably 2L engine) for the turbo project.

The turbo would have fit with the old 8 valve engine. There is little size difference at the side of the block (except at the head, where difference is big), but it's just enough.

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There is still investigation though.

I couldn't make pictures, as I arrived too late: the shop closed at 5pm (I talked to the neighbour exhaust shop's craftsman who would have made the exhaust and applied the turbo - they were open till 6pm).

I'll take some pics in the morning, and we'll see what we can do about turbo placement.

Also note that

* the NA swap gives about +40HP (50% up) for a cost (420 Euro) just a tiny bit more than the yearly maintenance - giving a lot of spare parts (a full spare engine with generator and starter, cables, etc...)

* the turbo upgrade would cost another 600 Euro exhaust works and 250 Euro for piping and heatshields (and +250 Euro for the turbo itself, +50 Euro for the charge cooler), also much more tuning work - a bit expensive for the next 50 HP (even if the clutch and tranny would bear the load asis, without another sack of money)

* no need to talk about the slight heartache which I got when I learnt that I could have chosen a (notably older) 2L 147 Hp engine for just +140 Euro more cost (compared to the 107 Hp 1.6L).

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Some turbo placeing ideas, it's mazda but you should see it:

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Some use this manifold for Civics so they can keep A/C. Doesn't look great, but I guess it'll work.

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?&id=1043990