History of CdiSupply
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2006-01-03 19:27:33 . . . . MembersPage/MarcellGal [note about the ign-flyback diode]
2006-01-01 03:04:38 . . . . MembersPage/MarcellGal [test circuit]
2006-01-01 01:05:06 . . . . MembersPage/MarcellGal [request for CDI polarity]
2005-09-29 15:43:26 . . . . MembersPage/MarcellGal [added http://fec.eng.monash.edu.au/challenge/]
2005-07-23 20:16:59 . . . . MembersPage/MarcellGal [uc-Controlled vs standalone]
2005-06-23 03:41:41 . . . . 24-116-224-75.cpe.cableone.net [Added link to article on Multi-Spark CDI]
2005-06-18 06:46:47 . . . . 81-203-167-132.user.ono.com
2005-06-17 12:41:52 . . . . MembersPage/MarcellGal [optocoupler / current mirror]
2005-06-17 12:03:29 . . . . MembersPage/MarcellGal [question about the duty]
2005-06-17 11:31:19 . . . . 135.Red-81-47-67.pooles.rima-tde.net
2005-06-17 11:21:49 . . . . 135.Red-81-47-67.pooles.rima-tde.net
2005-06-17 08:39:42 . . . . 135.Red-81-47-67.pooles.rima-tde.net
2005-06-11 16:40:02 . . . . d207-6-58-51.bchsia.telus.net [Added schematic/info about MSD 6A]
2005-06-11 12:30:51 . . . . a80-186-91-175.elisa-laajakaista.fi
2005-06-11 10:48:43 . . . . a80-186-91-175.elisa-laajakaista.fi
2005-06-10 17:31:43 . . . . MembersPage/JoseLCortes [a pics added and some comments.]
2005-06-09 17:16:46 . . . . MembersPage/JoseLCortes [Push-pull type CDI supply]
2005-06-03 04:47:11 . . . . MembersPage/SteenAndersen [Link to BOSCH CDI scematic added.]
2005-06-01 21:54:53 . . . . MembersPage/MarcellGal [thanx for the supply thoughts and feedback]
2005-06-01 17:44:15 . . . . MembersPage/JoseLCortes [What about forward converter for CDI supply?]
2004-12-15 22:55:39 . . . . MembersPage/MarcellGal [diode update]


Changes by last author:

Added:
There is a preferred spark polarity (maybe for the ION current too). Anyone remembers ? If you find it while reviewing these (or other) papers, please answer here.
Changed:

Another supply typology

Push-pull type

Push-pull type DC/DC
Added:
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uC controlled / standalone

For the CDI / Ion, uC controlled supply might be simpler and cheaper (and better logistics).

For uC main processor supply for the big display (with near-PC-performance, and a few Watts of dissipation at91rm9200+256 Mbyte SDRAM) power must be standalone.

Standalone is usually made from SG3525 , SG3524 SOIC16 or similar chip (compatible chips available from other manufacturers).

Standalone advantages

* prevents "stuck in" output stage (that might blow a fuse)

* suitable for the processor supply too (a processor can rarely control it's own supply, although it might be possible)

Standalone disadvantages

* higher cost the SG3525 is in the $0.6 range, logistics should not be too bad

* bigger footprint

* uC controlled has better flexibility (control supply voltage from software easily)

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simple CDI implementation with v3.x

Rather for experiment than production.

* only works when injector PWMing is not used, since the PWMing duty is used to control (regulate) the CDI supply.

* a FET activates the CDI flyback transformer (eg. 8:175 turns) primary side

** since freq is 15625 Hz (64usec), the transformer is a bit big (2cm2 should be enough). Ferrite core is needed (is toroid OK, or it must have a small air-gap to prevent magnetic saturation?). Maybe 32usec period would be better than 64usec.

* when the FET switches off, the flyback voltage on the CDI transformer secondary side charges a cap through a diode

** diode is easy, ES2J can be fine

** 1..4.7uF cap, min 400V (electrolytic OK?). This cap will be charged to appr 300V. Not a small cap.

* feedback voltage divider is needed from the 300V to a free mcp3208 input.

* a control loop must be placed in firmware to regulate the CDI supply output voltage. Make sure the duty can go down to 0% (not 1/256 !)

* ignition transformer primary+ is connected to 300V

* ignition secondary switched with IGBT (as normal), but very low dwell (64 usec?).

** A flyback diode is needed (3xES2J in parallel?) towards the 300V trace

* ignition transformer secondary- is connected to 300V through Rionsense (270 .. 510 Ohm?) resistor (the other end of the secondary winding is the HV wire to sparkplug, of course)

** this way the IonSense current becomes available. Possible to divide and GND-reference through a differential-input channel pair: available through midopa. Than record with AVR or with soundcard for analysis (not at 300V potential, but the GND-referenced signal)

When CDI is active, the tip electrode of the sparkplug is either at +300V or +30000V (during spark) potential, so take care.

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See also

* http://fec.eng.monash.edu.au/challenge/ 30V to 230V DCDC inverter