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An example of how a '''UK bank charged +10.6% more from the balance than the merchant received.''' (We asked the cardholder if this is the same as the previous record holder, HSBC). As a comparison, advertised card fee is now 2% (used to be 2.5% at the time of this transaction). * '''444.53 GBP was charged.''' - 2009-05-12 * '''Merchant received 401.8 GBP''' available for spending on 2009-05-28 ( 131784 HUF, 1 GBP = 327,98 HUF). When one pays with '''card internationally''', it happens the following way (see WebShop/CardTransactions for more details): * using a gateway they contact their cardholder's bank via the visa/mastercard criminal network to authorize the payment. * The cardholder's bank authorizes the payment (if they are lucky) and charges an amount from the cardholder's balance. The '''final amount charged is completely out of control of the merchant'''. There is no way to tell in advance how much the cardholder bank will charge. ** this is '''different in POS domestic sales where the fraudulent "electronic payment" network has a good competitor: paper cash''' - in international payments competition is - yet - illusoric * Visa settlement happens in USD (never GBP). The bank does not advertise to the cardholder the exchange rates they will use. ** and the merchant does not know what is the cardholder bank anyway, even from the card number this would be infeasible to find out automatically (but the merchant does not know the cardnumber anyway with this system - at least that part is good). And finally, the merchant sometimes gets some part of the settlement amount. The visa/mastercard criminal network paid about 50000 USD less in 2009 Q4 (it's just to our small business) than they charged from cardholders. And on the top of that, there is basically noone to sue, because they work via proxies (merchants don't contract with Visa/Mastercard, the gateway is a different legal entity). With all the small-letter text the visa/mastercard processing gateway is not responsible for totally fucking up the transactions (eg. not completing the settlement for sales type transactions - while the charge is already gone from the cardholder - not available for spending). How smart is the '''legal system to protect fraud committed via proxy-method''' like that ? ---- '''Another fraud: Cardholder's bank reserves money''' - the money hasn't moved anywhere else * 02-Feb-2011 02:26:17 Transaction Type: Authorization Only. ("not sales type") ** Transaction Status: Voided (voided same day) * on 14th February (12 days after void) the Lithuanian customer writes: this morning I was in the bank, and they said it is "your problem". So what is the solution to free these money? ** Which bank is this exactly ? ** The cardholder bank reserves the money (the money hasn't moved anywhere else, or appeared anywhere else: especially not the merchant's account ). Only the cardholder bank can free this money. ------ Skip the creditcards, use bank transfer with BIC account number it is free of charge for european residents and between other countries a fee may apply but cheaper and absolutly safe.
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