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A Motronic55 install might save some time with the harness, but you must always '''verify the harness reasonably carefully'''. Especially important when deviating from the factory setup, eg. with VemsAudiAanHallHall See note for 3B engines: VemsAudiThreeB (which is similar to AAN, so procedures are the same, but the right pinout must be used due to pin differences). This involves * measurement of all used pins ** mostly DVM ohm-mode ** sometimes voltage mode * visual inspection ** the injector part of the harness receives much heat. Insulation might be worn. It's better to fix ASAP, than to risk engine damage. Make your own page for your measurements like MembersPage/TormasiAudiAan, using this as a template. Steps: * click "Edit this document" for this page * click "Edit this document" for your MembersPage * copy/paste the template from this page to your memberspage * edit on your memberspage ** you can delete these steps (you've just done) ** add your measurements * save your memberspage ** save from time to time, don't risk losing many hours of edits. You can also '''keep snapshot of unsaved changes in a local file''', especially if the browser you use is abbreviated as msie. * close this page (without saving) * see VemsAudiAanAirConditioner mot55/pin41 A/C idle up signal ---- '''Documents and files to use''' * [http://www.vems.hu/download/v3/Motronic55/Audi Pinout spreadsheets] This is the most important docs, so you know pinout and function mapping. In VemsTune you will see names like EC36pin10 while you have it wired to some motronic pin. '''While you do the measurements, write the measured value and the pin you used, and any notes you think appropriate''' ---- '''Firmware and tuningsoftware''' * [http://www.vems.hu/vt VemsTune] * (TODO: Provide link to "vemscfg" config file here ) '''Sensor measurements''' Temperature calibration are available when updating firmware through VemsTune (also fine-tunable with table in recent firmware). * Coolant: NTC type 1900_256 or 2063_256 is a good starting point when nonstandard NTC sensor is used with weak 2700 Ohm internal pullup * MAT: make sure the '''MAT sensor matches the type''' the ECU MAT input as ordered ** non-standard '''purchased BMW / NTC type input and NTC MAT sensor''': 2252_256 is a good starting point; see GenBoard/Manual/IntakeAirTemperature (not suitable for PTC type input) ** '''PTC type MAT input''' (strong 430 Ohm pullup inside) and '''factory PTC MAT sensor''': 260_425 is a good starting point ** '''factory PTC MAT sensor can be used with NTC type input''': install a '''510 Ohm "pullup" resistor externally between +5V and pin44 MAT input. EasyTherm not needed for a long time. Measure sensor resistance against AANpin30 for verification. * ... Ohm between 44 and 30 (MAT) * ... Ohm between 45 and 30 (CLT) Take note of the temperature. If the engine is stopped for hours, the coolant and MAT will be close to ambient temperature. ---- '''Injectors and idle-air output measurements''' Measure injector and idle air pins against AANpin37 (that is the flyback pin, same function as EC36pin23 in standard VEMS docs) * inj cyl1, AANpin17, EC36-pin20, INJ-D * inj cyl2, AANpin16, EC36-pin8, INJ-C * inj cyl3, AANpin15, EC36-pin9, INJ-E * inj cyl4, AANpin35, EC36-pin19, INJ-B * inj cyl5, AANpin34, EC36-pin7, INJ-A The firing order is 1-2-4-5-3 and it's ok to shift this table, it keeps the injector firing order. While injector connectors are disconnected (and ignition output stage also): after applying ECU power (ignition on), * temporarily raise (VT / outputs / fuelpump) "pump on after powerup" to 63 seconds * after powerup, '''measure that injectors and ignitions are not active even while fuelpump is on'''. Injector: voltage measured between 2 pins of same connector (<3V is inactive; if >3V even with a 510 Ohm load applied, that's considered active). Ign: voltage measured between GND and output stage ign-control-signal (not High-Voltage wires !). * Usually fuelpump can be heard. Otherwise watch fuelpump_on flag in VT, and/or use a 2nd DVM. * repeat for all injectors and ignition channels (remember that fuelpump will be on for "only 63 seconds" after powerup, so will need to powerup a couple of times to measure all) * when verified all: reset "pump on after powerup" to appr. 3.5 seconds ---- '''Ignition outputs''' For an ignition output end-to-end test, just remove sparkplug high-voltage wires (easier just 1 at a time). make a small 1mm gap to ground (with a wire or a sparkplug) and use the VemsTune spark output test function to see if cylinders fire in the right order (1,2,4,5,3). Check the spreadsheet (link above) with all the pins. AAN-s use "i259" logiclevel ignouts for ignition, but earlier (perhaps you are fitting an old ECU to another engine/harness), stepper was used on 4 ignition outputs (output amplitude was higher, but also more sensitive to accidental short to GND or +12V). * '''cyl1''' AANpin1, EC18pin11 StepperD (0x66) '''mdn03''' * cyl2 AANpin2, EC18pin5 StepperC (0x56) mdn02 * cyl4 AANpin20, EC18pin10 StepperB (0x46) mdn01 * cyl5 AANpin21, EC18pin4 StepperA (0x36) mdn00 * '''cyl3''' AANpin23, EC36pin11 ignch4 (0x40) '''mdn04''' ** Very old Motronic harnesses and ECU have swapped cylinder 1 and 3, which are AANpin1 and AANpin23, only very few were made this way. ---- '''Grounds''' Measure that grounds are strongly (max 0.1 Ohm) connected inside the VEMS ECU. * AANpin10 * AANpin19 * AANpin24 * AANpin30 sensor ground * AANpin48 trigger ground Measure ECU pins: verify that all the above grounds are connected inside the ECU. Measure that first 3 are connected in the harness. AANpin30 (sensor ground) and AANpin48 trigger ground are likely not connected inside the harness. ---- '''Trigger''' '''The secondary trigger crankhome-VR MUST BE reversed'''. Can be done in the connector on the firewall. Measure trigger resistance against AANpin48. * ... Ohm between 49 and 48 (135 cranktooth-VR primary trigger) * ... Ohm between 47 and 48 (crankhome-VR secondary trigger) '''Reversing crankhome-VR polarity (if not already reversed)''' * See InputTrigger/AudiTrigger to get an idea about the '''crankhome-VR signal''' ('''for VEMS: +peak first, than -peak''' is desired as on the Zündzeitpunkt diagram). * Disconnect the crankhome-VR secondary trigger (3 pin AMP connector at the firewall. Was black in '''our''' AAN harness). In the female connector: ** measure with DVM which of the 3 pins go to motronic AAN pin48 (this is trigger GND) ** measure with DVM which of the 3 pins go to motronic AAN pin47 (crankhome-VR secondary trigger. The 3B engine-harness pinout is different: 3Bpin49 !!!) * measure '''resistance between pin 1 and 2''' in the 3pin male connector (of the sensor). You should get the same Ohm as above (eg. 980 Ohm, or 1010 Ohm or around that) * swap the 2 wires in the female connector (red and violet in our case) ** if you cannot pull out the receptacles, than you need to cut, blank, solder and insulate * mate the crankhome-VR secondary trigger 3pin connector (male in the female :-) * do the measurement in the motronic pins, ... Ohm between 47 and 48 : it should still be the same (the ohm measurement is polarity independent) Location of the trigger plug: http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/PeterJensen/audi_trigger/stik_trigger_morm_2.jpg Wiring crank home normal: http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/PeterJensen/audi_trigger/stik_trigger_morm.jpg Swap the red and violet wire: http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/PeterJensen/audi_trigger/stik_trigger_morm_1.jpg The wire is swapped: http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/PeterJensen/audi_trigger/stik_trigger_byttet.jpg '''HALL signal''' * ... V between pin8 and pin 30 (this needs ECU plugged in and ignition on so the ECU outputs +5V to pin12) ** changes between 0 and 4..5V as the engine rotates (push the car in gear5) ---- '''WBO2 on SSC5 male standard''' applies to both '''Audi AAN and 3B''' (also to BMW): *pin1 nernst,WBO2 pin 1 *pin2 WBO2 pin 3 (use a 5A fuse from +12V supply wire) *pin3 heater(-),WBO2 pin 4 *pin4 pump(-),WBO2 pin 5 *pin5 pump(+),WBO2 pin 6 '''OBSOLETE''' SSC4 male WBO2. was used before 2007-08 (now SSC5 is used) *pin1 nernst,WBO2 pin 1 *pin2 pump(-),WBO2 pin 5 *pin3 pump(+),WBO2 pin 6 *pin4 heater(-),WBO2 pin 4 * '''Remember that WBO2 pin 3 must get heater+ from a 5A fuse from +12V supply wire !''' The WBO2 heater+ does not come from the ECU (only the WBO2 heater-) ---- '''AAN ECU extra connector pins:''' '''SSC6 feemale''' *pin1 mcp3208 pin6,ch5 *pin2 mcp3208 pin7,ch6 *pin3 mcp3208 pin8,ch7 *pin4 EC36 pin 34 (power out) *pin5 EC36 pin 36 (power out) *pin6 GND '''Extra Econoseal 10 pin connector''' * [http://www.vems.hu/download/v3/Motronic55/Audi/aan_typical_EC10_pinout.pdf EC10 pinout example] ** +5V on serial port DSUB9F/pin9 (for bluetooth) Measure (if using bluetooth), please ** NOTE: this is just for reference, check your actual EC10 sheet (pinout might, and often differs based on order options and comments) ** if uncertain, '''use DVM and 1k resistor for any pin to be verified... pull pin to GND and 5V''' and see [https://www.vems.hu/vt/help/v3/v3_analog_input_calibration.html analog inputs] ** or with 1k pullup to 5V play with outputs (test with VemsTune, eg. with misc2 output). No worries if input or output, pulling to 5V or GND via 1k resistor it's all safe no matter what ---- '''3B ECU extra connector pins: AS YOU LIKE''' 3B note: motronic55, pin1 is EC18pin11 (stepper-D), see pinout '''IF YOU USE DISTRIBUTOR and one ignition output to control spark for all 5 cylinders, you must limit dwell in config'''. To allow high spark energy at 1.5+ bar boost especially above 7500 RPM, distributorless ignition (or CDI) is needed. '''SSC6 feemale for 3B... unspecified''' * pin1 * pin2 * pin3 * pin4 * pin5 * pin6 GND (use pin6 for ground if you want ground at all. You can also require that pin6 is an analog input or an output) Note that there is '''NO''' best, '''one-pinout fits all''' pinout for 3B. The 3B extra pinout is made as requested in the order note. * Sometimes more ignouts (power or logiclevel) are desirable * other times more analog inputs. eg. * 4 outputs and 2 analog inputs might be a good choice (allows 5coil setup). * 1 ground, 3 inputs, and 2 outputs allows distributorless ignition (not an everyday setup, but it works) ** cyl1 driven by factory coil (motronic55 pin 1 and the factory ignition power-output stage and coil) ** cyl2,5 and cyl3,4 driven by a 2x2 wastedspark ignmodule (logiclevel input active coil or power input passive coil like the durable [http://shop.vems.hu/catalog/bosch-motorsport-ignition-p-113.html Bosch motorsport wasted spark coil] - we used the 2x2 model but the 3x2 is also suitable) '''In short: when ordering 3B, in the order comment, you can just write''' * "on the SSC6 please make 2 (3,4,5, whatever you like) logiclevel outputs for active coils" or * "on the SSC6 please make 2 (3,4,5, whatever you like) power outputs for passive coils" The more pins used for ignition output, the less of the SSC6 can be analog inputs (useful for ALS, shiftcut, launch,... activation inputs). When requesting less than 5 channels (2-4) on the SSC6, the 1 pin through the motronic55 is by default logiclevel for active ignition coil (the factory firewall-mounted POS Power Output Stage together with the passive coil is equivalent to a logiclevel coil). As always, of course you can explicitely request power output for the motronic55 ignition pin for passive ignition coil when ordering. Note that the [http://shop.vems.hu/catalog/active-p-112.html VAG active COP] did not fit mechanically into our 1989'3B cylinder head. Might be a good idea to try before relying on it.
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