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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: Sub page for MembersPage/SteenAndersen This page is to collect my history, with old Q&A, and Progress..- ---- 1 Mrs 2005 I downloaded and compiled the new release [release 1.0.11 since 2004-11-24] from GenBoard/UnderDevelopment/FirmwareChanges page. I Can'not get the WBO2 to work right. '''How do i turn on WBO2 without issuing mde02 command ? (when engine starts)''' If i send '''mde02''' command it starts WBO2, and it works fine, but not the egoC:, on display on LCD stays on 0.00. ''A: EGO correction can be disabled in several ways, for cold engine, low RPM, high MAP, etc.. see config.ego_.... variables.'' In GenBoard/Manual/Config/WBoxygen it say's to "set <code> config13 = 0x02 </code> nothing happens when i turn on the engine, LCD shows La:?.??. and on lcd page 7, wbo2 is OFF. ''It is very likely that your RPM reads 0000 because trigger is not enabled or applied.'' I do have RPM readings, and pw, iat, clt, and mat is OK on LCD. The problem is ''secondary_trigger=FF''. Check GenBoard/UnderDevelopment/FirmwareChanges, especially anything about secondary_trigger (or changes after v8 release). Try secondary_trigger=02 === Solution === ''secondary_trigger=02'' solved the problem. Sorry I read the mesage on the firmware page, and thought i was set to 0x02, it was in my old config, but somehow it was changed to 0xFF == :-) == ---- 17 Apr. 2005 Time is a limiting factor in my progress, but i managed to do a little in the past weeks. I have started to modify "config.txt" and "tables.txt", to finish '''testing the WBO2 controller:''' * I adjusted '''wbo2_pump_pw_zero=64''' for a target of 3.94V (it was the same value as the board was delivered with in the initial firmware). * I took the warmup parameters from Mik's Example files as starting point and set the '''wbo2_ri_target=80'''. Lower wbo2_ri_target commands a slightly lower Ri than mik's, or higher sensor temp. (Note: the Rcal=128 ohm measured on sensor's calibration Ri, between LSU4 pin6 and pin2 has nothing to do with wbo2_ri_target; Rcal is Bosch's calibration value, so wbo2_calibration can be calculated from Rcal if the better free-air calibration is not available - eg. sensor in the exhaust already). * I connected a light bulb to test the warmup process, and it all went fine, with the lamp glowing gradually lighter as the warmup values changed. * Connecting a 50 ohm resistor on the sensor inputs showed Ri=49 on the LCD (measured Ri unit is not Ohm, but very close), so thats OK, and the heater voltage dropped imediatly, as expected when Ri gets low. * Then i adjusted '''wbo2_nernstdc_target=A6''' with LSU04 connected to give a measurement of 0.45 Volt across nernst cell. * And finally i adjusted '''wbo2_calibration=C1''' to give a o2 reading of 2095 on the LCD, as described in the html manual. * Last i tried to breathe on the sensor to see the reading drop to around 1800, and back up again in free air. I have also connected LED's on all the injector outputs, the ignition out, fuel pump out, and put a ptc on the clt_in and iat_in. Then i checked all the output with the '''mdhXX''' command. And with the finger as input trigger i se all the injektors fire in sequence, and ign fire, and fp turn on, and wbo2 turning on, and on the LCD i can see all teh parameters change as. iat, map, clt, rpm stays on 1000 since i use 50Hz stimulus on 6 cyl, coil type trigger with 6 teeth per cranck revolution (coil in distributor) configuration. Still need a lot of decissions to make in config, and tables. But now the hardware seems to be tested OK. So maybee it's time to put the vems in it's box, nd start to plan the installation in the car. ---- 04 Apr. 2005 Compilation of firmware problem from MembersPage/SteenAndersen/Questions page is solved. 1 - I did un-install !WinAVR version "!WinAVR-20050214-install.exe" 2 - Installed the version from "!WinAVR-20040720-install.exe" 3 - used, ''make clean''[Enter] ; ''sh'' [enter] , then ''make all'' [enter]; and this time no errors Viola. Actually it only worked on my old download of the firmware from 27 Jan 2005, when i try to compile my latest download from 26 March 2005 it fail with tihis error. <code> sipr.c: In function `sipr_process_inc': sipr.c:69: error: `sipr' undeclared (first use in this function) sipr.c:70: error: `sipr_recCRC' undeclared (first use in this function) D:\app\WinAVR\utils\bin\make.exe: *** [sipr.o] Error 1 rm eventqueue.o ign_logging.o phasesignal.o benchmark.o dispatcher.o engine.o me nu.o injconf.o ignconf.o knock.o multitooth.o edis.o ringbuf.o injector.o boostc ontrol.o sh-2.04$ </code> Hmmmmmmmmm.......... A: Spir is only added to latest CVS; It seems to me you are not using the released firmware from GenBoard/UnderDevelopment/FirmwareChanges, current CVS is _not stable_, stick to using releases - DB ''' OK : Follow UP ''' I was able to compile the "released" version download, so compilation enviroment must be ok, and the 26 mrs. 2005 download i have must be bad or broken. I'll stick to released version. BUT in the MembersPage/JohanEriksson/VerThreeFirmForDummies that i followed, it says to download the firmvare from csv with the GETFIRM.bat; but that apperently not always a good idea. So maybe a correcttion to the MembersPage/JohanEriksson/VerThreeFirmForDummies was a good idea :-) ---- ==== Problem ALMOST SOLVED, THX to Answer A2 below. :-) ==== 1 - I did un-install WinAVR version ""WinAVR-20050214-install.exe"" 2 - Installed the version from "WinAVR-20040720-install.exe" 3 - used, ''make clean'' ; ''sh'' , then ''make all''; and this time no errors Viola. But it only compiles old version Firmware. Se error on Progress page. ---- 30-March-2005 == HELP == ''I'm nor sure if this question should be asked on BuildFirmwareFAQ page, please let me know i'm new to this wiki concept.'' I Cannot get the Firmware to Compile into VEMS.HEX with the '''make''' command. Iread the page GenBoard/Firmware/BuildFirmwareFAQ several times, trying all the hint's about PATH variable, and SH command, but no good. I run on XP SP2, and installed the latest versions off !ActivePerl-5.8.6.811 and !WinAVR-20050214 And type like this in a CMD <code> D:\VEMS\Firmware\Copy\firmware>make clean </code> Witch turn out fine to clean up in the firmware directory ending like this <code> rm -f vems.a90 rm -f vems.hex rm -f vems.sym rm -f vems.eep rm -f vems.hex rm -f vems.asm rm -f *.bak rm -f *.log rm -f *.*~ Errors: none </code> Then i try to compile within the SH Shell with the '''make''' command, like this. <code> D:\VEMS\Firmware\Copy\firmware>sh sh-2.04$ unset LIB sh-2.04$ make echo "runme from sh shell, win32 cmd is broken, dies with CreateProcess error" runme from sh shell, win32 cmd is broken, dies with CreateProcess error avr-gcc -c -O3 -g -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wa,-ahlms=actuators.lst -D GENBOARD v3 -D FETDRIVER_INVERTING -D LCD -D LCD_4x20 -D PS2KEYBOARD -D BENCHMARK -D CELS IUS -D WBO2 -mmcu=atmega128 -I. actuators.c -o actuators.o . . . comm.o(.text+0x97a):D:\VEMS\Firmware\Copy\firmware/comm.c:834: more undefined re ferences to `PRG_RDB' follow D:\app\WinAVR\utils\bin\make.exe: *** [vems.elf] Error 1 rm avr/adc.o avr/lcd.o avr/eventqueue.o avr/kb.o injconf.o eventqueue.o dispatch er.o avr/iac.o avr/spi.o softpwm.o avr/wbo2.o injector.o spi.o engine.o ign_logg ing.o phasesignal.o avr/keyboard.o avr/dispatcher.o timing.o benchmark.o avr/sto rage.o avr/fuelcontrol.o avr/menu.o edis.o avr/button.o avr/timing.o ringbuf.o a vr/actuators.o ignconf.o boostcontrol.o multitooth.o menu.o knock.o avr/comm.o sh-2.04$ </code> I did the above on firmware downloaded on Jan 27 and 26 Mar. 2005 with same result. I tried to reinstall Perl and !WinAVR, same result.I even trid to install it on the labtop, same result. What is wrong. I use the my_make from /docs with !WBO2 enabled. I did manage to compile the tables with '''make mtt'' so something is working. A: For production cars stick with the firmware release from: http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=GenBoard%2FUnderDevelopment%2FFirmwareChanges it has a precompiled vems.hex (with wbo2 enabled) in there- DB. A2: The error you are describing seems to be related to a PRG_RDB macro change in the latest avr-libc, if you revert back to an older version you should be able to compile properly. If you do a wiki search on 'PRG_RDB' you'll see that GenBoard/UnderDevelopment/FirmWare page has another solution to your problem. Good luck - DB ---- Update: 03 Apr. 2005 OK. I gave up to compile the Firmware, and downloaded the released version form GenBoard/UnderDevelopment/FirmwareChanges I got the serial port to work from perl by installing Win32-API + Serial port support. And succeded to upload Vems.hex file to GenBoard. I tried to use Megatune, but the configuration files seems to be wrong. I can see the reealtime parameters like temp, rpm, clt, iat, a.s.o. Then i trid to install MegaTunix, it seem to work until i enter the motor detail s page then i crashes. So for now i only have RS232, LCD, PS2, and perl up working I tested almost all the port's with mdh''XX'' command. Next i think i have to start consider how the tables.txt and config.txt will look like. ---- Update: 25. March 2005 I Have Connected and Tested Communication to RS-232, PS2 Keyboard, and LCD Display. I tried the '''mxc''' command, ant tried the '''mcd''' and got the whole set off parameters in return. YAHOOO....... :-) So far it's a success; but i must say that it's not that easy, because of the lack off a better toturial or building manual. The PS2 connection has been corrected in [http://megasquirtavr.sourceforge.net/manual/Detailed.Central.Keyboard.html#Install the manual] - thanx for the feedback. Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.