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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: This page contains all test of the new Subaru Trigger code ---- What we have seen 2010-05-24 We have stable 160 rpm at cranking fuel pump off. When we cranking the car it´s stable in beginning it fires up to 300-600 rpm then random fires and rpm is no longer stable. Its like it runs only on two cylinders (firing correct) but then losing sync. We see some correct firing´s but also ignition fires at different times than it should. Obviously there is noise in the signal, that must be filtered. Question: Haw is this code tested and what signal is used? * It is very important when testing that we have a swinging signal like 100-300-120-500-200 rpm`s and not lousing sync. Not joust a long stable sweep ** yes, it is tested with sweeping signal We have big trouble scoping the output of LM1815 because of the short signal like 15 micro sec. It should be a bit higher (20-30 usec), but you can '''enlarge it very easily, see below'''. I would suggests that we use the p259 led´s output. When the processor get signal from lm1815 Pre/sec trigger we set the output high for 0.5 sec. This will give us a chance to see and measure what goes in and out of lm1815. Triggerlog also shows the time of the pulse (although currently for the primary trigger only). Watching the input with analog scope is of primary importance. Even if the output is perfect, if the input is on the edge, it can break any time (eg. in cold). ---- '''Analog scopeshots ?''' do you have some ? http://www.syvecs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=110&p=474&hilit=trigger+pattern+advisory+note#p474 If the input is biased properly, the LM1815 adaptive filtering should filter out small amplitude "phantom-tooth" pulses in the subaru. I didn't see your scope so only you can judge the offending amplitude. 10-30% should not trigg, and with lower R181 / R182 even higher amplitude offenders can be filtered out Maybe the noise is capacitively injected by ignition ? '''It could save a LOT of time''' (even 1 week) to '''route the VR signals via properly shielded cable''' (with ground wire inside, and shield connected to ground only on ECU side). Than only try the factory harness when it works well with the separate shielded cable so you have a good starting point reference. ---- '''Ideas''' - setting up more agressive filtering for this low toothcount * the LM1815 (especially for the primary trigger) is set up so it can receive 9000 RPM signal from the audi 135 tooth. As subaru has only 6 teeth (the shortest gap is 30 degrees which is equivalent to 12 teeth) the '''circuit can be modified for 10 times higher times.''' ** 10 nF => 100 nF on the input ** 1nF => 10 nF for the output pulse timing ** please verify the above values (I wrote them from memory), and multiply with the accompanying resistor so 3*R*C is less than 30 degrees * LM1815 mode pin5=5 can be tried (and left it open can be tried too). Often used with 1k pulldown in audis for the low toothcount crankhome-VR. ---- http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/Skassa/subarutrigger_files/new%20trigger/Subaru_1.jpg New Vems pcb installed http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/Skassa/subarutrigger_files/new%20trigger/Subaru_2.jpg Our technical engineer trying to hunt down the errors http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/Skassa/subarutrigger_files/new%20trigger/Subaru_3.jpg Test car 600 Hp HKS Subaru Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.