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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: Car is a MK2 1982 VW Scirocco, 1600cc 8-valve K-JET engine with a BLT turbokit installed probably somewhere in the late eighties. Engine has already been prepared for EFI by replacing the K-JET injectors with EFI injectors using custom injector seats and BBM fuel rail. Next step is to get VEMS control the injectors and the ignition coil with distributor ignition. ____ ''' IGNITION PROBLEM ''' I did some more tests regarding the ignition output problem (see http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/SVIScirocco/Testing.txt Testing.txt]) I think I have something seriously toasted in the board, as; - P259 ch0 outputs +12volts static, measured with DVM towards ground, regardless if the MiscOutput it is assigned to is active or not. - P259 ch4 outputs +2volts static, regardless if the MiscOutput it is assigned to is active or not. - Ignition outputs give static ~0.2volts measured towards +12v. ---- '''TRIGGER OPTIONS''' '''Option 1.''' Stock distributor is fitted with an optical sensor, giving '''one pulse per firing''', approx. 90degress BTDC for each cylinder. Vacuum hose is removed from dizzy to prevent vacuum-based adjustment of ignition advance (trigger position). Without camsync it needs distributer for ignition of course. This was the first trigger pattern first implemented (around the same time as missing tooth). * batch injection possible, but semi-sequential recommended (fire only 1 at a time, every time the next one, divider=1). * VEMS can control ignition timing with the distributor ignition (coil-type trigger?) ** pretending this signal comes from the crank and configuring it as 2-tooth, none missing ** rather 4 tooth. ** in 1.0.x easy. ** in 1.1.x relatively new firmware needed without camsync (use 1.1.67 or 1.1.69) and set tooth width to 180 degrees, Next trigger tooth=1, reference tooth array = 0, 3, 2, 1, .. .. .. .. ''' --> OK, this is the trigger setup I will start with, since it's already there. ''' '''Option 2.''' Mount a '''60-2 trigger wheel on the crank ''' pulley and fabricate hall sensor brackets.. Yes, this option would allow wastedspark DIS ignition. '''Option 3:''' '''4-1 on crank''' (3 pulses, 2 of them are appr 60-90 BTDC; pattern is 90,90,180 crankdegrees). This is the simplest, smallest toothcount pattern that allows DIS. * Possible just 3 M8 screws or similar, that [http://shop.vems.hu/catalog/hall-sensor-p-107.html 1GT101DC] sensor can sense. ** always HALL sensor recommended for low toothcount (not VR). ** make an extremely strong sensor mounting bracket (~as strong that you could lift the engine with). Otherwise vibration will likely cause problems. ---- '''Trigger testing''' Files are [http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/SVIScirocco/ here] like [http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/SVIScirocco/Testing.txt Testing.txt] and [http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/SVIScirocco/testbench.vemscfg test.vemscfg] We'll reproduce this setup. http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/SVIScirocco/vems_primarytrigger.PNG http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/SVIScirocco/vems_miscoutput.PNG '''NOTE THAT YOU HAVE AN OUTPUT COLLISION ! Ign/6 used for 2 functions. It is NOT GOOD ! ''' (validate in vemstune does not warn about this ???) --> ''' No, I'm using VemsTune-Install-2009-10-02. ''' http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/SVIScirocco/vems_ignoutputs.PNG Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.