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I would like to install a Genboard v3.3 to the following car: Audi S2 coupe quattro 2.2 5 cyl 20v 3B This 5cyl needs InputTrigger/AudiTrigger see config info * see GenBoard/UnderDevelopment/FirmwareChanges * MegaTune r027 or later will be needed (r028 should work too). **'''When I can use the new modified software version of original auditrigger?''' ---- '''TODO needed for debug''' * TerminalProgram ** disconnect megatune ** brayterm 9600,8n1 connect (COM1 or whatever) ** Man ** mll - test if we are in menu ** start log ** mcd - so log contains config ** mct - so log contains tables ** mdd0c ** cranking (4..5 sec) ** stop log ** upload log to internet ** bye ** disconnet from Brayterm ** connect MegaTune ** (Man, mcd, mct, mdd0c, mdd04, mdd00), start log/ stop log / send file (mtt file) * publish mcd, mct dump * confirm 1.0.29 firmware * MegaTune r28 * describe all trigger connections, including shield and pullup ** photo of cable ** check against InputTrigger/AudiTrigger and InputTrigger/AudiTrigger/TestLM While the trigger is special, the other sensors should be no problem at all. My V3.3 include: * Primary trigger VR * secondary_trigger: auditrigger * MAP connection: 400kPa onboard * LCD an PS2 * 2 Knock and EGT * ignition driver: 6+2 The car use the absolutely factory sensors and accessory but the air filter's house was removed. I want to make a street racing car from above. Project to follow: * samco turbo hoses * tubular turbo exhaust manifold * bigger turbo than original * erl water injection * engine internal modification /pistons,conrods/ My plans: * use a factory 55 pins Motronic male connector to EC18 and EC36 and make a flying cable set + WBO2,egt custom made wirings to engine. * Anti lag system * Launch control * Boost control solenoid * Distributor based ignition * Sequential injection for 5 cyl '14.5 ohm' * 2 knock sensors, but I think use 1 knock sensor. If I want to use the factory airmass sensor too,where can I connect this? Since you have onboard MAP, EC18pin6 (see WebShop item http://shop.x-dsl.hu/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=48) is a custom analog input that you might use for airmass sensor (not used by default, just logged in MegaTune). The knock input cannot measure the airmass sensor's signal. * Primary trigger VR 135 tooth crankwheel (no missing tooth) * Secondary tr. HALL trig 1 window/720° camtooth. Overlaps VR. * Secondary tr. VR trig 1/360° cranktooth * factory CLT * factory IAT * factory TPS * 1xWBO2 * 1xEGT * LCD Please check my planned pinout and correct it if necessary. '''EC36''' 1 TPS sign. 2-IAT 450-650 ohm/in 20°C 3- fast-idle small solenoid or relay (or any low-current output, such as shiftlight). EC36pin3 is a 350mA output, see GenBoard/Manual/DigitalOut/Table. You might want to use the powerful injector outputs first (don't forget to adjust h[0]=.. entries) and use the low-current outputs if you run out of injector outputs. Care is needed to not overload outputs. 4- 5-'''GND5''' 6- 7-Injector1 14.5 ohm/in 20°C 8-Injector3 9-Injector5 10- 11- 12- 13-Sec.trig HALL 1 window camtooth 14-CLT 2.1-2.9kohm/in 20°C 15-Fuel pump relay 16- 17- 18-BOOST solenoid 19-Injector2 20-Injector4 21-'''GND5''' 22-'''GND5''' 23-'''Inj.flyback''' injector common (+12V) 24- 25-Vbatt 15+ 26-GND ecu and sign,knock 27-Primary trigger 135 cranktooth VR 28-5V to sensors /to TPS maybe ???? 29- 30- 31- 32-'''GND5''' 33- 34- 35-ignition coil 36- http://shop.x-dsl.hu/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=48 says channel3=EC36pin36 and channel5=EC36pin12 are logic-level drive. Useful for active coils that have the driver stage inside. For traditional dumb coil, you want to use one of the 6 power (non-logiclevel) ignition outputs. h[2]=.. (ignition sequence) must be adjusted for the chosen output in any case. '''EC18''' 1 2-Knock1 3- 4- 5- 6- 7-WBO2 pump- 8- 9-WBO2 pump+ 10- 11- 12-Sec trigger '''1 Cranktooth VR''' 13-WBO2 nernst cell 14-Comm RS232 See [http://shop.x-dsl.hu/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=48 assembled genboard item in shop] 15-Comm RS232 16- 1-wire is a network connection. Not used (unless for [http://shop.x-dsl.hu/catalog/index.php?cPath=1_10 i-button]). A free connection (if you don't solder the DS2480B chip) - use for whatever you like. 17- 18-WBO2 heater- '''DO NOT forget to read the warning of the provided resckue-kit paper''', about GND5, flyback, and fuses. ----- Please link to the docs you're trying to use. See MegaTune page for (simple unzip) install. The v3.3 has max232, so a standard RS232 port is needed. See GenBoard/Manual/CommHardware If unsure about MegaTune setup / compatibility, in 9600,8n1 say <code> Man mll mcd mct bye </code> without spaces. mll prints LCD content of active page (even if no LCD connected), mcd and mct prints config and tables. bye (note: everything is case sensitive) goes back to MegaTune compatible mode. Since MegaTune is much simpler to use, you don't need to learn GenBoard/MenuSystem, but if you like: But 1.0.19 will NOT work with the InputTrigger/AudiTrigger , since it is a new development. ------- megaloq viewer: http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=LogAnalysis you can also collect some infos from: http://www.msefi.com/index.php primep=32 primep_temp_scaling=00 cwl=50 cwh=0F cranking_thres=04 awev=1E awev_temp_scaling=1A awc=64 warmup_clt_range[0]=00 warmup_clt_range[1]=14 warmup_clt_range[2]=28 warmup_clt_range[3]=3C warmup_clt_range[4]=50 warmup_clt_range[5]=64 warmup_clt_range[6]=78 warmup_clt_range[7]=8C warmup_clt_range[8]=AA warmup_clt_range[9]=C8 warmup_clt[0]=64 warmup_clt[1]=64 warmup_clt[2]=64 warmup_clt[3]=64 warmup_clt[4]=64 warmup_clt[5]=64 warmup_clt[6]=64 warmup_clt[7]=64 warmup_clt[8]=64 warmup_clt[9]=64 warmup_rpm_scale=63 req_fuel=50 divider=01 alternate=14 injopen=06 battfac=22 kpafac=C8 kpaoffs=6B injocfuel=15 injrampup_battfac=7D injpwm=FF injpwmt=FF injpwm6=FF rpmk[0]=09 rpmk[1]=60 tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00 tpsdotrate[0]=02 tpsdotrate[1]=10 tpsdotrate[2]=19 tpsdotrate[3]=23 tpsaq[0]=00 tpsaq[1]=00 tpsaq[2]=00 tpsaq[3]=00 tps_thresh=05 tpsasync=01 acmult=64 tpsacold=0A tpsdq=64 decel_fuelcut_thres=32 overrun_fuelcut=32 overrun_fuelresume=32 rev_limit=42 airden_ignore=62 config11=41 config12=40 config13=02 batt_cal=AA fastidle=C6 baro=64 dbaro=0A tps_low=17 tps_high=FE fan_temp=EA fan_hyst=05 fan_channel=FF iac_step_seq=D8 iac_conf=08 iac_max_steps=EE iac_tps_thres=08 iac_cold_idle_temp=80 iac_warm_idle_temp=D0 iac_cold_rpm=78 iac_warm_rpm=55 iac_cold_start_pos=00 iac_warm_start_pos=00 iac_afterstart_rpm=14 iac_afterstart_duration=50 iac_afterstart_steps=04 iac_kp=20 iac_ki=22 iac_kd=14 iac_integral_speed=DC iac_integral_limit_dec=03 iac_integral_limit_inc=E1 iac_integral_deadband=0A iac_deadband=05 iac_pid_conf=01 iac_overclose_interval=B8 iac_ref_pos[0]=6B iac_ref_pos[1]=69 iac_ref_pos[2]=66 iac_ref_pos[3]=63 iac_ref_pos[4]=61 iac_ref_pos[5]=5E iac_ref_pos[6]=5C iac_ref_pos[7]=59 iac_ref_pos[8]=57 iac_ref_pos[9]=54 iac_sol_channel=7F iac_ign_advance_change=10 iac_ign_retard_change=20 iac_ign_advance_limit=00 iac_ign_retard_limit=00 iac_ign_threshold=10 ego_conf=06 ego_lag=03 ego_coolant=D8 ego_maxtps=FF ego_maxmap=FF ego_minrpm=32 ego_maxrpm=40 ego_warmup=1E ego_lean_limit=0F ego_rich_limit=0E ego_pid_kp=40 mt_unused=FF ego_delta=01 ego_target=19 ego_pid_window=01 wbo2_warmup_ramp=A0 wbo2_warmup_target=FF wbo2_abs_limit=E0 wbo2_limit_maxt=F0 wbo2_fallback=70 wbo2_retry_t=06 wbo2_edgetime_corr=BA wbo2_edgetime_min=50 wbo2_ri_target=A5 wbo2_nernstdc_target=86 wbo2_pump_pw_zero=66 wbo2_calibration=B2 wbo2_heater_pid_kp=46 wbo2_heater_pid_ki=10 wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=80 wbo2_pump_pid_kp=40 wbo2_pump_pid_ki=2C wbo2_pump_pid_kd=08 wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=84 wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80 knock_conf=01 knock_sampling_window=F2 knock1_frequency=29 knock1_gain=0E knock1_integrator=14 knock2_frequency=29 knock2_gain=00 knock2_integrator=00 knock_threshold=0A knock_noise_scale=D8 knock_max_retard=18 knock_default_retard=04 knock_retard_step=04 knock_retard_delay=30 knock_advance_step=01 knock_advance_delay=50 knock_minrpm=32 knock_maxrpm=42 ve_learn_coolant=C9 ve_learn_max_power=FF ve_learn_rpm_scale=28 ve_learn_kpa_scale=28 ve_learn_ego_scale=50 ve_learn_min_weight=30 ve_learn_speed=36 ve_learn_limit=FF ve_learn_conf=00 lcd_c0=FE lcd_delay=42 lcd_backlight=FF lcd_offs[0]=FF lcd_offs[1]=FF lcd_offs[2]=FF lcd_offs[3]=FF lcd_default_view=00 primary_trigger=F3 secondary_trigger=1D tooth_wheel=87 trigger_tooth=1C another_trigger_tooth=36 crank_minper=30 tooth_wheel_twidth1=01 tooth_wheel_twidth2=FF cam_sync_r_edge_phase=00 cam_sync_f_edge_phase=00 reset_engphase_after=05 ign_tdcdelay=78 ign_dwell14=4B ign_dwell6=6F ign_crank_advance=20 ign_out=70 ignchmax=04 engine_off_delay=04 pump_on_mintime=04 fuelpump_channel=57 inj_stage2_rate=FF inj_stage2_start_tps=FF inj_stage2_start_map=FF als_deact_rpm=24 als_deact_time=AA als_deact_egt=66 als_retard=CC als_rev_limit=24 misc1out_minrpm=FE misc1out_maxrpm=FF misc1out_mintps=FE misc1out_maxtps=FF misc1out_minmap=FE misc1out_maxmap=FF misc1out_channel=FF misc2out_minrpm=FF misc2out_maxrpm=FF misc2out_mintps=FF misc2out_maxtps=FF misc2out_minmap=FF misc2out_maxmap=FF misc2out_channel=FF act_wot_rpm=FF act_wot_channel=FF act_rpm_rpm=FF act_rpm_channel=FF egt1_cal=4A egt1_offs=00 boost_conf=69 boost_targetoffs=00 boost_minpressure=41 boost_pid_kp=2D boost_pid_ki=1B boost_pid_kd=FA boost_pid_ilimit=FF boost_channel=60 water_pump_temp=FF hybrid_rpm_a=00 hybrid_rpm_m=00 water_pump_hyst=7F water_pump_channel=FF toothrel_normal=76 toothrel_missing=00 fuelcut_min_kpa=00 fuelcut_max_kpa=AF tach_channel=36 tach_divider=05 shiftcut_conf=00 shiftcut_channel=FF shiftcut_time=7F j[0]=1980 1980 2780 2A80 2A80 2880 2880 2080 2080 2080 2080 1F80 j[1]=2080 2180 3D80 4480 4180 3E80 3A80 3880 3880 3480 3380 2C80 j[2]=4E80 5680 5880 5A80 5980 5380 5380 5180 5280 4B80 4380 3580 j[3]=5C80 6280 6480 6680 6480 6080 6180 5B80 5A80 5780 4E80 4580 j[4]=6880 6A80 6E80 6E80 6E80 6D80 6A80 6480 6280 6380 5C80 5180 j[5]=7380 7580 7780 7880 7680 7680 7680 7180 6E80 6E80 6480 5D80 j[6]=7880 7A80 7B80 8080 7E80 7D80 7B80 7A80 7880 7780 7680 6E80 j[7]=8180 8180 8380 8280 8280 8380 8280 8280 8380 8480 7E80 7B80 j[8]=8A80 8A80 8A80 8C80 8B80 8980 8880 8880 8880 8980 8980 8680 j[9]=9780 9780 9780 9580 9680 9680 9680 9680 9580 9380 9480 9380 j[A]=A180 A080 9F80 9F80 9F80 9F80 9E80 9B80 9D80 9C80 9D80 9E80 j[B]=B180 B280 B080 B180 AF80 AF80 AE80 AF80 AF80 AF80 AE80 B080 l[0]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 l[1]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 l[2]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 l[3]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 l[4]=37 37 37 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D l[5]=47 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 l[6]=48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 l[7]=4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F l[8]=55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 l[9]=5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C l[A]=6D 6D 6D 6D 6D 6D 6D 6D 6D 6D 6D 6D l[B]=7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B n[0]=22 22 2C 68 82 8C 94 9C 9E 9E A0 94 n[1]=23 23 2F 6B 83 8C 94 9C 9E 9E A0 94 n[2]=23 22 2D 69 7D 88 90 98 98 98 9C 94 n[3]=30 30 2F 65 7C 84 8C 94 94 96 98 94 n[4]=30 30 2B 60 75 7C 82 8B 8D 90 91 91 n[5]=30 30 25 5B 70 77 80 84 88 88 8C 8C n[6]=14 14 1E 53 67 70 78 80 82 84 88 88 n[7]=0C 0C 15 4C 60 68 6C 6C 74 76 78 78 n[8]=04 04 0F 43 50 54 5C 60 64 68 6C 6D n[9]=04 04 0C 38 47 4B 54 5A 5D 63 68 6B n[A]=02 04 0A 28 39 42 4A 4D 50 52 52 57 n[B]=04 04 0B 14 20 24 2C 34 34 36 38 3C k[0]=0F 17 1E 28 32 3C 46 50 55 5A 5F 64 r[0]=07 0C 12 19 1F 25 2B 31 37 3D 43 4A h[0]=08 02 01 04 10 00 00 00 h[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 h[2]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b[0]=FF 00 00 00 1E 20 12 12 12 12 12 12 t[0]=1A 0E 06 04 02 00 00 00 The from genboard I can see the following signals: -135 cranktoots on 0.8V DC with 1.9V AC-peak to peak about 400Hz,40mV noise on cranking -1 teet crankhome om 0.8V DC with 2V AC-peak to peak about 40mv noise on cranking -hall 1camsign startpoint 4.7V neg pulse about 10msec on cranking We have not Rpm signals and triggerlog on megatune and brayterm and not started the engine.
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