###    
   ##    
   ##    
   ##    
   ##    
   ##    
  ####   
         

 ___   
(  _`\ 
| (_(_)
|  _)  
| |    
(_)    
       
       

   ____  
  / __ \ 
 | |  | |
 | |  | |
 | |__| |
  \____/ 
         
         

         
         
  ### #  
 #   ##  
 #   ##  
  ### #  
      #  
  ####   

         
         
 ##   ## 
 ## # ## 
 ####### 
  #####  
  ## ##  
         

IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now.


Visit Preferences to set your user name
Summary of change:
'''Measuring VCC pin8 shows only 0.3V''' Testing the v3.3 units purchased recently (#316, #317, #328 & #360) with this: http://www.mmcompsys.com/download_zone/6_sensors/SEN.pdf Magnetti Marelli sensor - which is a common sensor used by the likes of Omex and MM themselves. Its resistance was measured at ~620 Ohms. * A scope trace shows a good AC signal ~(+/-10V) on VR InputTrigger ** measure the input signal mean value, in DC setting. Eg. if the signal just slighly goes under 0V (eg. minimum is -20mV) for some reason, that would explain all. A '''scope in AC mode does not show this'''. *** Voltage measured at 9.2VAC, 0VDC * same config (from MembersPage/JimW/ExampleConfig ). ** please issue the (Man) mdv, mdV, mcd and mct '''for each''' and save the result, and publish. Very important to see the config that was actually read back *** Results are here [http://vems.hu/www.vems.co.uk/VEMSInstalls/Unit317Result.txt Unit 317] [http://vems.hu/www.vems.co.uk/VEMSInstalls/Unit328Results.txt Unit 328] [http://vems.hu/www.vems.co.uk/VEMSInstalls/Unit360Results.txt Unit 360] * all have been loaded with firmware v1.0.23 and the * verify firmware integrity (eg. prog.pl without "w" option) '''for each''' *** All verified ok, no errors * if you unclamp any ** check resistor ad LM1815 pin7 (first check that it exists, than maybe measure resistance, should be 100..180k) *** 360 measured as 180K ** with scope, '''measure on LM1815pin3 and LM1815pin12'''. DC mode is needed to see if signal goes below GND *** Pin 3 0.0->0.3v Pin 12 0.5->0.7v ** check LM1815pin5: (the 3-pad SMD jumper) isn't it connected (solderblob) to either GND or +5V ? It shouldn't, and it's unlikely to explain anyway. ** don't clamp it unless the problem has been identified and fixed * #316 (primary&secondary VR) and #328 (VR primary/Hall Secondary) read the engine speed perfectly * #317 & #360 show no engine speed ** there has never been a problem with primary trigger with assembled controllers earlier (they get tested, with appr +-5V signal, lower than yours), so 2 out of 4 is extremely surprising, suggests another round of careful testing and reporting details. ** publish a few seconds of the serial-output after ''Man mdf01 mdkff'' when the trigger signal is applied. This reveals if the trigger gets input. *** Logs are here [http://vems.hu/www.vems.co.uk/VEMSInstalls/Unit317.log Unit 317 output] [http://vems.hu/www.vems.co.uk/VEMSInstalls/Unit328.log Unit 328 output] [http://vems.hu/www.vems.co.uk/VEMSInstalls/Unit360.log Unit 360 output] ---- After Emil's suggestion I took a VR sensor with a 500 Ohm impedence and wired it to the EC36 plug on my bench. Testing on a known working unit (316)I set the primary trigger type to coil and put the sensor on a mains adaptor, it gave a value constant reading of around 1500rpm. One of the suspect units was then tested with the same settings and there was no reading (0000rpm) We should examine the VR waveform. This depends on the toothwheel (not the sensor: 800 Ohm should not be a problem by itself). If the amplitude at the missing tooth is way too high ('''max difference between amplitude of any 2 teeth should be < 15%'''), it is possible that one ECM triggers properly and another not. Obviously, either ECM must trigger OK on a proper-waveform VR signal. Watch wheel-error, since that might be a good indication of this. Do you have a picture of the toothwheel ? The logs above (for 317 and 360) show B6=0000 (watch the 2nd B6=.... not the first) which means there is absolutely no trigger detected during or before the capture-period (not just lost teeth because of tooth-amplitude). Pictures of tooth wheel http://vems.hu/www.vems.co.uk/VEMSInstalls/RawEngineeringCASKit.jpg http://vems.hu/www.vems.co.uk/VEMSInstalls/RawEngineering4ACAS.jpg This wheel works with Omex systems and two of the v3.3s
Optional: Add document to category:
Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.