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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: Car is from year 1997. It sports turbocharged 1.8liter inline four, has passive coil-on-plug ignition system and crank triggers: primary VR (60-2 wheel) and HALL as cam sync. Also it is equipped with strange throttle body. Perhaps it's one unit TPS and idle valve? I took some measurements also: two pins have 5v supply, one pin has 12v supply and one pin had something like 10.x volts supply (measured when engine was not running, only ign. was switched on. That's what it looks like. http://www.hot.ee/raceboy911/A4TB.jpg Looks like a newer version of InTake/ThrottlePlates/VAGElectronicThrottle ------ I connected all the sensors to VEMS unit and everything worked fine (including TPS) but the stock VR sensor. I put the 60-2 wheel specs all correctly (check the config : MembersPage/PeepPaadam/AudiConfig )but no rpm signal. When i switch from multitooth to coil-type, it shows 100rpm every crank rotation like it should (one trigger event per rotation) but in multitooth mode...nothing. *Here is the trigger settings that is diffrent from my #HansK: **crank_minper=8B #50 **tooth_wheel_twidth1=02 #06 **tooth_wheel_twidth2=06 #12 ------------ I might also innstall VEMS on such a 20vT so I'm curious #HansK: * Are you using IGN_DUALOUT and origianl coils? '''A:'''I'm planning going sequential, but I'll start the car in dual_out mode. Yes, original coils. * Are you planing to use cam-trigger? any info on the original? '''A:''' Cam sync is one window Hall sensor. ---- '''Triggering problem''' serialnr ? orderid ? Tried different settings but still nothing. Only in coil-type, it shows 100rpm like it should with one trigger event per rotation. * Could it be that the LM815 chip is somewhat less sensitive than it should be ? ** since MarkoTsirk 's case (where the VR required > 500mV input), the input threshold is also tested so it works below 100mV (typically down to 50mV signal). So this should not be the problem, but is natural suspect in this case anyway *Any input? ** 100 rpm in coil type settings is way too low (just an indication that there was at least 1 pulse), if you get all 58 teeth registered in coil type mode, RPM signal would be appr 30 times higher than real. Can you scope trigger signal? Maybe mixed up cam and crank trigger? '''A:''' No, every pin is in it's right position. When setting coil-type, trigger registers only missing teeth event and tha is the same like crank would have only one pin. ** I know of one case where LM1815 threshold had to be lowered by jumpering LM1815pin5 to ground. Because of very low amplitude at low rpm. #HansK I tried to connect unit no. 620 (which was ordered with VR) and everything was ok: very good trigger signal and rpm reading! Connecting HALL sensor wouldn't give ANY reading (even in coil-type). Easy to test with soundcard output ElectronicDesign/TriggerSignalGenerator. * does it work with max volume * when turning down volume, does it lose signal soon (40..80%) or it keeps triggering even at low (7..10% amplitude). v3.x serialnr 637 was ordered with HALL, right ? Try to write orderid, or approximate date too. If you unclamped, take photo of the trigger section (middle of the board). Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.