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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: After removing the 10-1 trigger,we ended up using 5 crank and 1 cam signals. Installed 1.1.56firmware and latest vemstune 20090625. While cranking the following can be strobed on the crank: Tested GOOD: 144 crankdegrees steps between the 5 ign outputs positions. Something must be broken in this (hw + config + wiring + measurement] setup [http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/NanassyPeter/10plus1_trigger/audi5crank1cam_sparktimingerror%20on%20cyl2.vemscfg config] : cyl1 0tdc 2 +15 ??? 3 +1 4 -2 5 +2degs of spark. * Maybe measurement error ? ** Detail testing setup ** maybe catching up noise ? * Check that no output collisions. * Try the tested setup that was tested good on 1.1.57. This snapshot does not belong to a documented setup: http://img.carstyling.hu/usercars/00/05/88/23/58823_1248274257.jpg ---- '''Tested GOOD: 144 crankdegrees steps between the 5 ign outputs positions''' Tested on firmware 1.1.57 with the following config. The angle difference of the ignition outputs are good, 144 degrees between positions. # CurrentTime: 2009-07-23 18:35:35 # Creator: VemsTune 0.9.89 (2009.07.16) # Version: 1.1.57 # SerialNumber: v3.3_n001212 # CompilationTime: 2009-07-03 09:30 # Signature: VEMS v1.1.57 16x14 kpa=2,2 # Options: VEMS Genboard v3, 1.1.57 # CompileOptions: 00000003 # Firmwareversion=1.1.57 primep=00 primep_temp_scaling=00 awe_time_cold=FF awe_time_warm=C8 cranking_thres=04 warmup_map_scale=F2 cranking_div=01 film_coeff=00 shiftcut_potlow=3C shiftcut_pothi=FF shiftcut_retcut=47 boost_matdec=C8 boost_egtdec=83 iacref_matslope=68 shiftcut_minrpm=78 egt_rich=8C knock_rich=AA knock_boost=C8 warmup_clt[0]=CD warmup_clt[1]=9A warmup_clt[2]=67 warmup_clt[3]=62 warmup_clt[4]=34 warmup_clt[5]=1A warmup_clt[6]=00 warmup_clt[7]=00 warmup_clt[8]=06 warmup_clt[9]=1A warmup_rpm_scale=D9 req_fuel=2A divider=01 alternate=14 injopen=00 battfac=22 kpafac=C8 kpaoffs=8C injocfuel=08 injrampup_battfac=FF injpwm=FF injpwmt=FF als_launch_input=CC launch_maxkpa=09 launch_kparange=60 tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00 tpsdotrate[0]=04 tpsdotrate[1]=07 tpsdotrate[2]=0F tpsdotrate[3]=1A tpsaq[0]=0D tpsaq[1]=1A tpsaq[2]=26 tpsaq[3]=33 als_cut_mintps=FF tpsasync=A0 acmult=20 tpsacold=10 launch_enrich=FF launch_retard=F0 overrun_fuelcut=14 overrun_fuelresume=10 rev_limit=53 airden_ignore=61 config11=41 config12=40 config13=12 batt_cal=C6 iac2load=00 als_max_cut=00 dbaro=00 tps_low=16 tps_high=E6 fan_temp=EA fan_hyst=05 fan_channel=FF iac_step_seq=D8 iac_conf=50 iac_max_steps=FF iac_tps_thres=05 iac_cold_idle_temp=63 iac_warm_idle_temp=87 iac_cold_rpm=6E iac_warm_rpm=61 iac_cold_start_pos=FF iac_warm_start_pos=80 iac_afterstart_rpm=00 iac_afterstart_duration=00 iac_speed=01 iac_kp=1C iac_ki=08 iac_kd=06 launch_rpm=1E iac_integral_limit_dec=03 iac_integral_limit_inc=01 iac_integral_deadband=0A launch_retard_margin=05 als_cut_maxtps=FF confswitch=00 iac_ref_pos[0]=97 iac_ref_pos[1]=91 iac_ref_pos[2]=8C iac_ref_pos[3]=87 iac_ref_pos[4]=85 iac_ref_pos[5]=82 iac_ref_pos[6]=80 iac_ref_pos[7]=80 iac_ref_pos[8]=7D iac_ref_pos[9]=78 iac_sol_channel=6F iac_ign_slope=18 softrpm_range=26 iac_ign_advance_limit=08 iac_ign_retard_limit=08 iac_ign_threshold=04 ego_conf=06 ego_lag=02 ego_coolant=7E ego_maxtps=FF ego_maxmap=69 ego_minrpm=05 ego_maxrpm=46 ego_warmup=14 ego_lean_limit=14 ego_rich_limit=03 ego_pid_kp=21 als_enrich=00 ego_delta=03 ego_target=19 ego_pid_window=01 ignretard_clamp=BF als_react_tps=FF wbo2_abs_limit=E0 wbo2_limit_maxt=F0 wbo2_fallback=70 wbo2_retry_t=06 als_retard_rpm1=FF als_retard_rpm2=FF wbo2_ri_target=A5 wbo2_nernstdc_target=86 wbo2_pump_pw_zero=67 wbo2_calibration=AB wbo2_heater_pid_kp=45 wbo2_heater_pid_ki=11 wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=80 wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15 wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00 wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=FF wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80 knock_chan=F0 knock_sampling_window=00 knock1_frequency=29 knock1_gain=0E knock1_integrator=14 knock2_frequency=29 knock2_gain=00 knock2_integrator=00 knock_threshold=0A knock_noise_scale=D8 knock_max_retard=00 knock_default_retard=00 knock_retard_step=00 knock_retard_delay=30 knock_advance_step=01 knock_advance_delay=50 knock_minrpm=0A knock_maxrpm=42 ego_delay=CF ego_minmap=0A cold_ignadjust=80 crank_ve=00 film_enlean=00 iac_close_delay=28 iac_integral_lowmap=50 spare_vars[0]=28 spare_vars[1]=50 lcd_c0=7A lcd_delay=42 lcd_backlight=FF kpa_conf=22 als_igncut_rpm2=FF als_retard_mintps=FF als_retard_maxtps=FF lcd_default_view=00 primary_trigger=03 secondary_trigger=19 tooth_wheel=0A trigger_tooth=00 another_trigger_tooth=02 crank_minper=00 tooth_wheel_twidth[0]=01 tooth_wheel_twidth[1]=20 cam_sync_r_edge_phase=00 cam_sync_f_edge_phase=00 reset_engphase_after=40 ign_tdcdelay=C8 ign_dwell14=2C ign_dwellmap=0E ign_crank_advance=00 ign_out=70 ignchmax=04 engine_off_delay=02 pump_on_mintime=04 fuelpump_channel=5F inj_stage2_rate=FF inj_stage2_start_tps=FF inj_stage2_start_map=FF als_igncut_rpm1=FF als_deact_time=00 als_deact_egt=00 als_retard=CC als_rev_limit=FF misc1out_minrpm=FF misc1out_maxrpm=FF misc1out_mintps=FF misc1out_maxtps=FF misc1out_minmap=FF misc1out_maxmap=FF misc1out_channel=FF misc2out_minrpm=FF misc2out_maxrpm=FF misc2out_mintps=FF misc2out_maxtps=FF misc2out_minmap=FF misc2out_maxmap=FF misc2out_channel=FF act_wot_rpm=FF act_wot_channel=FF act_rpm_rpm=FF act_rpm_channel=FF egt1_cal=4A als_tks_channel=FF boost_conf=67 boost_more=00 boost_minpressure=14 boost_pid_kp=4B boost_pid_ki=46 boost_pid_kd=3C boost_pid_ilimit=7D boost_channel=7F water_pump_temp=00 hybrid_rpm_a=00 hybrid_rpm_m=00 water_pump_hyst=7E water_pump_channel=FF toothrel_normal=76 toothrel_missing=00 fuelcut_min_kpa=09 fuelcut_max_kpa=96 tach_channel=0F tach_div=10 shiftcut_conf_input=2C shiftcut_tpsthresh=0D shiftcut_time=FF softrpm_rpm=3F n2o_mintps=80 n2o_minrpm=FF n2o_maxrpm=80 n2o_retard=00 n2o_minkpa=80 n2o_maxkpa=4F n2o_input=80 n2o_output_channel=4F n2o_settings=80 launch_out_channel=4F launch_out_delay=80 launch_out_pwmlow=61 launch_out_pwmhigh=80 launch_out_pwmramp=63 launch_out_ontime=80 launch_out_conf=63 boostsw_conf=80 boostgauge_channel=6F boostgauge_offset=80 boostgauge_mul=63 map_filter=10 speed_sensor=63 gears[0]=80 gears[1]=63 gears[2]=80 gears[3]=46 gears[4]=80 gears[5]=47 boost_mult[0]=80 boost_mult[1]=48 boost_mult[2]=80 boost_mult[3]=4A boost_mult[4]=80 inj_mult_trim[0]=4B inj_mult_trim[1]=80 inj_mult_trim[2]=62 inj_mult_trim[3]=80 inj_mult_trim[4]=64 inj_mult_trim[5]=80 inj_mult_trim[6]=63 inj_mult_trim[7]=80 iac_conf2=63 warning_rpm=80 warning_kpa=63 warning_conf=80 warning_adc_value=63 warning_egt=80 warning_afr=63 warning_clt=80 warning_channel=4F injection_angle=80 boost_tps_dc_scale=4A n2o_mingear=80 misc1out_conditions=4C misc1out_condition1=80 misc1out_condition2=50 misc2out_conditions=80 misc2out_condition1=50 misc2out_condition2=80 knock_gain[0]=55 knock_gain[1]=80 knock_gain[2]=63 knock_gain[3]=80 knock_gain[4]=63 knock_gain[5]=80 knock_gain[6]=63 knock_gain[7]=80 knock_reference[0]=63 knock_reference[1]=80 knock_reference[2]=63 knock_reference[3]=80 knock_reference[4]=63 knock_reference[5]=80 knock_reference[6]=57 knock_reference[7]=80 knock_calibration_min=4A knock_calibration_max=80 inj_add_trim[0]=51 inj_add_trim[1]=80 inj_add_trim[2]=55 inj_add_trim[3]=80 inj_add_trim[4]=54 inj_add_trim[5]=80 inj_add_trim[6]=52 inj_add_trim[7]=80 inj_deadtime[0]=65 inj_deadtime[1]=80 inj_deadtime[2]=66 inj_deadtime[3]=80 inj_deadtime[4]=65 inj_deadtime[5]=80 inj_deadtime[6]=64 inj_deadtime[7]=80 inj_deadtime[8]=64 inj_deadtime[9]=80 n2o_rich=80 speed_mintime=64 accell_retard=37 blablabla[0]=6E blablabla[1]=82 blablabla[2]=96 blablabla[3]=AA blablabla[4]=BE blablabla[5]=7F blablabla[6]=FF blablabla[7]=FF blablabla[8]=FF blablabla[9]=FF blablabla[A]=FF blablabla[B]=FF vvti_cold=84 vvti_idle=84 vvti_pid_kp=30 vvti_pid_ki=37 vvti_pid_kd=3D vvti_pid_ilimit=44 vvti_channel=4A accel_rpm[0]=51 accel_rpm[1]=58 accel_rpm[2]=5E accel_rpm[3]=64 accel_scale[0]=6B accel_scale[1]=71 accel_scale[2]=78 accel_scale[3]=7E inj_stage2_conf=80 crankpw[0]=33 crankpw[1]=25 crankpw[2]=20 crankpw[3]=1D crankpw[4]=1B crankpw[5]=17 crankpw[6]=0B crankpw[7]=07 crankpw[8]=04 crankpw[9]=00 inj_size[0]=00 inj_size[1]=00 clt_curve[0]=FE clt_curve[1]=BF clt_curve[2]=A8 clt_curve[3]=9A clt_curve[4]=91 clt_curve[5]=89 clt_curve[6]=83 clt_curve[7]=7D clt_curve[8]=77 clt_curve[9]=71 clt_curve[A]=6C clt_curve[B]=66 clt_curve[C]=60 clt_curve[D]=5A clt_curve[E]=51 clt_curve[F]=44 clt_curve[G]=3C mat_curve[0]=FE mat_curve[1]=BF mat_curve[2]=A8 mat_curve[3]=9A mat_curve[4]=91 mat_curve[5]=89 mat_curve[6]=83 mat_curve[7]=7D mat_curve[8]=77 mat_curve[9]=71 mat_curve[A]=6C mat_curve[B]=66 mat_curve[C]=60 mat_curve[D]=5A mat_curve[E]=51 mat_curve[F]=44 mat_curve[G]=3C clt_range[0]=3C clt_range[1]=50 clt_range[2]=64 clt_range[3]=78 clt_range[4]=8C clt_range[5]=A0 clt_range[6]=B4 clt_range[7]=BE clt_range[8]=C8 clt_range[9]=D2 boostalt_channel=7F j[0]=60 60 6E 82 83 85 88 8B 8B 88 83 82 82 82 82 82 j[1]=5A 66 69 84 78 94 98 96 96 96 96 96 83 83 83 83 j[2]=5F 6A 6C 7A 80 8E 98 96 96 96 96 96 86 86 86 86 j[3]=64 67 69 7F 85 98 98 97 96 96 96 96 89 89 89 89 j[4]=70 70 77 83 87 97 98 96 96 96 96 96 8B 8B 8B 8B j[5]=7D 7F 85 88 94 96 9A 9B 96 96 96 96 8E 8E 8E 8E j[6]=8B 8C 93 8E 94 97 99 9B 96 96 96 96 90 90 90 90 j[7]=95 96 91 91 97 99 9C 9E 96 96 96 96 94 94 94 94 j[8]=96 96 91 95 9B 9D A4 A8 A3 9E 9B 98 9C 9C 9C 9C j[9]=9A 9A 9B 9B A1 A4 AA AD A9 A4 A3 A2 AE AE AE AE j[A]=9C 9C 9C 9D A3 A8 B0 B4 B0 AC A5 A2 BC BC BC BC j[B]=A6 A6 A6 A6 A6 AE B4 B6 B5 B1 AE AC C7 C7 C7 C7 j[C]=C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 C8 j[D]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF j[r]=02 06 08 0C 10 14 19 1E 23 28 2D 32 37 3C 44 50 j[k]=0A 0F 17 1E 28 32 43 53 64 71 7D 8A 96 A0 l[0]=39 2C 27 27 3F 58 5A 68 l[1]=39 32 27 27 44 58 5A 68 l[2]=39 37 2C 32 51 5A 5C 6B l[3]=39 37 37 3D 5A 5C 5C 6B l[4]=44 3F 3F 3F 5C 61 61 6B l[5]=47 47 47 47 61 63 63 70 l[6]=7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B 7B l[7]=7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E l[r]=02 10 14 1E 28 32 3C 6C l[k]=0A 0F 23 33 46 64 D2 FF n[0]=30 3C 46 5C 68 72 88 94 9E B4 54 54 n[1]=30 3B 45 59 64 6E 82 8D 97 AC 54 54 n[2]=30 3A 44 56 60 69 7C 86 90 A2 53 52 n[3]=30 39 42 54 5C 65 76 7F 88 99 52 50 n[4]=30 38 40 50 58 60 70 78 80 90 51 4F n[5]=30 38 3F 4D 55 5C 6A 72 79 88 50 4D n[6]=2F 35 3C 48 4E 54 60 66 6D 79 4E 4A n[7]=2E 34 3A 45 4B 51 5C 62 68 74 4C 44 n[8]=2D 32 38 43 48 4E 58 5E 63 6E 46 3A n[9]=2C 31 36 40 45 4A 54 5A 5E 69 41 30 n[A]=2B 30 34 3E 42 47 50 55 5A 63 3D 29 n[B]=28 2C 30 38 3C 40 48 4C 50 58 3C 28 n[r]=05 0A 14 1E 28 32 3C 46 50 5A 64 6E n[k]=0A 0F 19 23 2A 33 46 64 A0 D2 FA FF h[0]=04 10 08 02 01 20 40 80 h[1]=02 00 08 06 04 00 00 00 h[2]=00 00 00 00 10 50 50 50 y[0]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[2]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[3]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[4]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[5]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[6]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[7]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[8]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[9]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[A]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 y[B]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b[0]=32 32 32 4B 4B 4B 4B 4B 4B 4B 4B 4B t[0]=00 1A 33 4D 66 99 CC FF e[0]=C8 B0 98 80 64 64 64 64 e[1]=C8 B0 98 80 64 64 64 64 e[2]=C8 B0 98 80 64 64 64 64 e[3]=C8 B0 98 80 64 64 64 64 e[4]=C8 B0 98 80 64 64 64 64 e[5]=C8 B0 98 80 64 64 64 64 e[6]=C8 B0 98 80 64 64 64 64 e[7]=C8 B0 98 80 64 64 64 64 e[r]=3C 50 64 78 8C A0 B4 C8 e[k]=00 06 10 34 67 9A CD FD i[0]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i[2]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i[3]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i[4]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i[5]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i[6]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i[7]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i[r]=04 0A 0F 14 1E 28 32 3C i[k]=00 0A 14 32 64 96 C8 FA w[0]=00 00 00 00 04 10 1C 28 w[1]=00 00 00 00 04 10 1C 28 w[2]=00 00 00 00 05 11 1D 29 w[3]=00 00 00 00 05 11 1E 2A w[4]=00 00 00 00 06 12 1E 2A w[5]=00 00 00 00 07 13 1F 2C w[6]=00 00 00 00 09 15 22 2E w[7]=00 00 00 00 0A 17 24 30 w[r]=3C 50 64 78 8C A0 B4 C8 w[k]=00 06 10 24 3E 67 B3 FD s[0]=19 1E 19 1E 28 32 3C 46 s[1]=64 C9 CA CB CC CD D2 DC ---------- One of our car that runs this type of trigger shows interesting problems during gearchanges.Note that the car has a dogbox transmission,which gives out enormus noise when changing gears. During gearchanges there are rpm spikes,sometimes exceeding 10000rpm.The problem only occours when the engine is hot. vemslog sent for review Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.