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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: Subpage of MembersPage/MarcellGal/PowerAndTraction * In the car we purchased, everything related to air conditioner was missing from the engine bay ** the parts in the cabin were there * the system was washed * we got a new AC compressor and condenser, and drying filter mounted ** while the MembersPage/MarcellGal/PowerAndTraction/CompressorChargeCooler is mounted at the front, the condenser is mounted at the left side of the engine, in front of the main radiator * got it filled with R134a gas, it seems to work * but they only made the pressure part of the AC. '''We have to complete the fan and clutch electric circuit (see below)''' ** they haven't cleaned the airpaths either (zzz). Can be done later with a little extra hassle * relay 2 was there (now used), but relay 6 and relay 11 were NOT. This raises suspicion about the integrity of the AC control head. There is also a home-mounted switch on the control head that suggests they used it in manual mode. With the [http://www.autolib.diakom.ru/CAR/Audi/1989/200/WIRING%20DIAGRAMS/ schematics] and [http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/trouble_shooting/cooling.html SJM page] (see the 0.2 + 0.2 Ohm resistor pack at 85% of the page, mounted under the main radiator on the main console) it is possible to identify/verify the relays that switch on the radiator cooling fan in different power-stage (3 stage system: 0.4, 0.2 or 0 Ohm series resistor). ---- '''A/C Control''' We have a universal pressure-switch in the high-pressure tube (after compressor), with 2 blue, and 2 black-green wires: * Normalpressure ( blackgreen - blackgreen ) : closed between 2.5 and 28bar. Suitable to enable the relay that enables clutch, and turns the radiator fan (which also draws air through the AC condenser) at low fan-speed * Above18bar (blue-blue): "high-pressure switch" closed above 18 bar: Suitable to turn the radiator fan on at high power through a 70A relay NOTE: now, after they filled the system with R134A gas (with engine off), * blue-blue is normally inf Ohm * blackgreen-blackgreen is normally 0 Ohm '''Clutch control''' * we plan to avoid the highly advanced automatic A/C control that is built into this car: many things can brake, it does not worth to debug * the ECU can use a miscoutput to ** disable compressor at max TPS (or whatever condition the user finds appropriate, eg. also at low TPS for cars without idle-valve) ** disable compressor during cranking ** TODO: after disabled, do NOT enable for 20 seconds (to prevent compressor clutch wear and belt abuse) '''AC main 30A relay''' * the output of this relay switches on ** the '''AC compressor clutch''' (needs +12V) ** Optionally it can also switch on a small "raise-idle" solenoid (normally not needed when there is an IAC valve) * when ignition is on and the AC manual switch is on, the 30A relay control winding gets +12V * the other pin of the relay control winding gets GND when both the ECU and the pressure range allows: ** when ECU allows AC, it pulls the blue wire to ground ** when the universal pressure switch senses pressure in range 2.5 .. 28bar, the blue-pair is closed so the relay can turn on (if VEMS ECU also allows, see above) '''Radiator fan (on low-power) relay, or a 2nd circuit of the above relay''' * original plan was to switch radiator and AC clutch by same 1 circuit relay (the AC main 30A relay). However the AC clutch +12V control line MUST NOT be directly connected to the fan (low-power point in the fan resistor pack): ** When the fan turns on for some other reason (coolant temperature too high), we do NOT want the AC clutch to turn on !!! '''=> separate relay (output) needed''' ** the output of this relay (circuit) is the '''radiator fan at partial power''' (appr 20A current) through a 2x 0.2 Ohm series resistor that I found under the coolant radiator '''Fan stage2 relay'''. DONE, reused factory relay * when ignition is on, the 70A relay control winding gets +12V * the black-green pair switches on the 70A relay by pulling other end of the winding to GND. The switched circuit powers the main radiator fan to stage 2, with only 1 x 0.2 Ohm series resistor * I found that the schematic was very precise about this. I pulled relay 2 and measured the wire to identify the connector of the high-pressure switch. The connector was hanging where one expects (near the compressor). I shorted the terminals of the connector, and the fan came on in stage 2 (pretty loud). ---- '''Clearance''' http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/MarcellGal/Audi/oldengine/oldbay_05_m.jpg * 1 hydraulic fluid container (central hydraulics fluid reservoir) for steering and brakes * 2 break cylinders and break fluid tank (also for clutch) * 3 main radiator for engine coolant ** there seem to be enough space in front of it for the air conditioner cooler. In fact, with the charge cooler's space requirement, I cannot imagine any other mounting position for the air conditioner radiator * 4 mounting flange for belt driven "Central hydraulics pump" ** It looks like power steering and breaks * 5 "front engine mount" (is that the proper name?) ** also serves as the mounting flange for the alternator ** The '''charge cooler has to be fitted either below or above the frame mounted part of the torque stop => seriously limits the max size charge cooler that can be fitted''' ** It's very common that a tuner removes the front engine torque absorber...once. Then they get tired of snapped and torn hoses (oops) and put it back in again. ** The '''torque stop can usually be modified a bit to give 10-20mm more clearance above the cradle'''. That also limits the movement of the engine and makes the car feel better (in Jorgen's opinion). * 6 Fuel filter ---- '''Links''' * http://members.aol.com/c1j1miller/repair.html many repair instructions, engine and body ** http://members.aol.com/c1j1miller/climate.html * [http://babel.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2faudi100.selbst-doku.de%2fMain%2fGebl%25e4semotorKlimaAusbauen2 Babelfish translation of the Selbst-Doku wiki AC page] ** [http://babel.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2faudi100.selbst-doku.de%2fMain%2fKlimaanlage Babelfish translation of the Selbst-Doku wiki AC page2] * http://www.2bennett.com/body_audi_200_intercooler.html * ... Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.