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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: Audi RS2: Long Block 2.7 liters, Motronic VEMS, 7.5 to 1 Comp, Precision 6265, 10 bosch injectors 550cc @4bar. 034 DIS high output coils, 60-2 crank sensor. ------------------------------------------------------------ 15/03/2012 Good morning, Yesterday I did my first run outside, 10km on street but still have a lot of trigger error. Both trigger camshaft and crankshaft are hall sensor. Engine is running very very well but sometimes there are trigger errors and then misfire start :-(( There are sometimes error in trigger at idle but not many but above 2200rpm then there is a lot. I have recorded a picture with my digital scope, trigger log and vemslog. 1) Here is a picture I have recorded. in gree the 60-2, in blue the cameshaft. Scope synchronised on the faling camshaft signal on the left of the picture. http://www.vems.hu/files/camshaft%20crankshaft%2060-2%20hall%20sensor%20signal.jpg 2) trigger log http://www.vems.hu/files/v3.3_u003208-2012-03-14-21.29.26.triggerlog 3)vems log yes idle is bad and engine fall often after release acceleration. http://www.vems.hu/files/v3.3_u003208-2012.03.14-21.25.23.vemslog Q: I am open to suggestion according to your experience. I had a look to error trigger but could not find explanation. Initially I thought that was maybe an expectation from vems to see the cameshaft sighal coming after a certain number of deg but according to the trigger log, it seems that there are some holes in the sequences ?? on the scope the signal look nice and sharp, maybe too low ? I forgot to measure the voltage. A: ? ------------------------------------------------------------ 9/02/2012 audi ADU idle too high at 2000rpm, IAC badly controlled Information relative to this topic will be moved into a folder very soon ------------------------------------------------------------ 9/02/2012 Here below are the information relative to the bad cold start when cold MembersPage/LoloQuatro audi ADU no craking when cold, ether needed link to the log is now available ----------------------------------------------------------- 13/02/2102 still same difficulty to crank when cold, any suggestion ? Crank when warm is fine. http://www.vems.hu/files/v3.3_u003208-2012.02.11-17.09.39%20recording%20no%20cranking%20when%20cold.vemslog OK. You need to correct your trigger setup first, because most of the time your engine is running (glitching) with trigger errors. Only after your trigger settings are sorted can you expect anything else to work correctly. I suggest to get a known good vemscfg from similar engine/trigger type as a start. After spark events (triggering) are sorted, cranking enrichment is way too low, you need ~ 150%-200% at zero degrees C for gasoline. Afterstart settings are also off, you need a few hundred cycles on cold, but probably only a few tens when warm. My best method to try good values is based on startup-lambda: Enable lambda heating before cranking in the wideband calibration window (Start cal., and close window), then start logging and crank the engine. If it doesn't starts for the first attempt, you may need to repeat the whole process. There are many more suspicios values in your config but first try to start the engine. A known-good config from simmilar engine setup is strongly recommended! ----------------------------------------------------------- 13/02/2012 Once warm press the throttle and relase the idle goes back to normal, but when engine is loaded, press throttle and relaese then the idle goes too low. What are the step to adjust the IAC PID ? I do not understand clearly the combination and effect of these parameters and the documentation is very limited on that topics. Many thanks in advance. Laurent. http://www.vems.hu/files/v3.3_u003208-2012.02.11-18.05.25%20idle%20goes%20too%20low%20when%20release%20throttle.vemslog -- First off you need a flat area of VE in the idle region, otherwise your fueling will be all over the map. Make the lower left four values much closer, right now they are off from each other by huge percentages and that will induce oscillation. Second your I factor is probably too high, but start by setting PID all to zero and making certain that your idle PWM reference table gets you close, overshooting just a bit, perhaps by a hundred RPM or so. Then when you have that commence PID tuning. If you need more I have written a whole tuning guide for AAN and have learned more since then. --------------------------------------------------- 20/02/2012 Dear Vasilis, I saw on you memberpage a lot of information very good about the idle and you car. Congratulation. I also have an Audi RS2 5cyl and have some a lot of problem for the moment to crank the engine in a nice way and tune the idle. It would be great detail a little bit more all the step you did to have a good cranking and idle and the effect when you change one value and the logic of reasoning to change one parameter and not an oher one. In addition I do not understand why it takes several undred of rotation to have a start and there is no possibility to do a quick start in only few rotation ? I saw some explanation about the quick start can you develop as well is you have experience on that as well ? Many thanks in advance. Laurent. Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.