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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: inside wiring for knock http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/vems_inside.jpg It is working now. I started out clean with mcells config and it just worked. I here that tooth_wheel_twidth is not used any more and to set it to 0xff it does not seem to care what I put in there. Everything looks good to me except tooth_wheel_twidth1 should be 0x0A, for a 10 degree tooth width on the trigger wheel. '''Hall''' showing the tooth cut out of my Spica pump drive wheel had 36 teth now I only have 35 left. http://sly.gotdns.com/images/pickup/FI_wheel_pickup_closeup.jpg This is my 2nd proto http://sly.gotdns.com/images/pickup.jpg http://sly.gotdns.com/images/pickup_split.jpg http://sly.gotdns.com/images/pickup_in_cover.jpg This is my first proto I will remake it now and clean stuff up http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/hall.jpg http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/hall2.jpg ''' VW COP ''' http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/cop_inch.jpg Too long for the 4cly http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/cop_spyder.jpg Looks like I can make it work for the V6 http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/cop_vs_75_OEM.jpg http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/cop_75_top.JPG http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/cop_75_side.jpg http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/75_v6.jpg The pinout if there is a power-NPN inside I think we will need to add a small NPN (2N3904), eg. on the IGBT pads: * the small NPN's Base goes to where the gate was (1k away from ign259's output pin) * Emitter need to go to a resistor (say 10..33 Ohm) then the COP pin 3 (driving the power-NPN's base) * and the Collector goes to power (+14V, same that powers the coil) Let me note that stepper driver could drive the NPN almost directly, through a resistor (and very fast!) if we allowed any digitalout()-pin for ignition in edis.c (not just the ign259 outputs). http://www.vems.hu/files/COILS_COPS_etc/vw_cop_06b905115e_sch.gif 1J0973724 might be the plug for the VW coil as vw etka lists them ---- '''Triggering''' I have been working on a easy way to retrofit older cars with no tiggers. The proposed GenBoard/InputTrigger setups below are optimized for fast startup (little time spent in cranking). "They are not simpler than the supported (ncyl/2*N - m) missing tooth crankwheel setup (like a vanilla 24-1, 36-1 or 60-2)," How is making a "Vanilla 24-1, 36-1 or 60-2" + some cam pickup(we need to know when to fire the coils and which cyl to inject to) simpler the breaking off 2 tabs and adding a hall. but with appropriate firmware support they can find out the engine position faster at cranking. Anyway, I like the documentation format. We need to explain the direct ign setups on DummyIgnition page (or rather subpages) in a similar way: * drawing - the 3D is especially nice (rotation direction is important in some cases!!) * explanation * advantages * disadvantages * config settings (if supported) ---- This is not the simplest for a 4 cyl. It is not?? OK what is simpler that will do seq. injection and drive the 4 coils? http://www.vems.hu/vems.hu/files/sly/4cyl.jpg The pickups are 180° apart. If the 2 pickups were ANDed it would look like a it had 4 tabs not 2 so with this we can see 8 edges one every 45° of the encoder or 90° crank We can add more tabs if we want. 4 tabs would give 22.5° on the encoder and 45° on the crank. With this we get: * Sync after one gap. * If a pickup dies we could still run. * Very simple to make and install in a old distributor or on a CAM * If the 90° is ok most Hall distributors could be retrofited by removing 2 tabs and adding a 2nd hall ---- This is a old example of a simple trigger for 6 cyl. http://www.vems.hu/vems.hu/files/sly/trig_w_b.gif http://www.vems.hu/vems.hu/files/sly/trig_w_a.gif The pickups are 60° apart. Pickup A is even. and pickup B is odd. With this I can get sync after the first Gap. So I will not have the crank and crank untill #1 comes around to get sync. also if one fails I should be able to still get sync after no more the 2 gaps (1 gap past the working pickup) and use softwate timing for the missing pickup. This can go ether on a cam or inside a distributor. ---- injector connectors http://www.machv.com/fuelincon.html $12 http://www.racetep.com/injcon.html $10 http://www.clewett.com/products/connector.htm $4.50 + $2.50 for 5 pins ($3.85each for 8) good pics here http://shop.store.yahoo.com/eagleday/ampconnectors.html tyco info http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=17458&M=FEAT&LG=1&I=13 827551-3(black type C) very common pin 927846-1 826008-1(grey typa A) 826008-5 (black) 825414-1(grey type b) the -x is the color ---- injectors to buy http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Injector_SetsBMW.asp ---- http://www.dune-buggy.com/turbo/partslist.htm more info ---- Yay I got it to GO!!! 2 things I found one was there was a port conflict on port A3 so I changed to #define LED_STATUS 1 #define LEDPORT PORTD in hwdef_v3.h now I get the pulses from the header JP1 the 2nd thing was that a reflash did not load etc/config.mtt so I needed to cat etc/config.mtt /dev/ttya ---- mcd <code> see megatune file below </code> ---- mct j[0]=667F 667F 677F 697F 6E7F 717F 717F 737F B57F B17F 307F 577F j[1]=677F 687F 6B7F 6F7F 757F 797F 7A7F 797F 857F 907F 987F A87F j[2]=687F 6C7F 717F 787F 837F 887F 867F 827F 697F B57F 3A34 4E38 j[3]=6F7F 717F 797F 847F 917F 987F 987F 927F 207F 8D94 3D35 5543 j[4]=7B7F 7F7F 847F 8D7F 9B7F A47F A87F A17F A890 C3B3 5F30 9085 j[5]=827F 837F 8C7F 937F A87F B37F B97F B37F FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF j[6]=867F 8B7F 937F 9C7F AF7F B87F BF7F BE7F FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF j[7]=877F 8C7F 967F A07F B07F BA7F C57F C27F FFFF FFFF FFFF 647F j[8]=FFFF 727F 0C07 727F 697F 777F 697F 207F B996 6E7F 6F7F 697F j[9]=797F 1010 657F 207F 2017 2020 697F 207F 207F 6D7F 657F 1010 j[A]=1019 1010 2020 2020 2020 2020 1010 1010 1025 1010 1010 1010 j[B]=102A 1010 2020 2020 2030 0220 00B6 0011 808A 0000 0109 2001 l[0]=45 38 38 36 34 34 34 34 FF FF FF FF l[1]=38 38 38 38 36 36 36 36 FF FF FF FF l[2]=38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 FF FF FF FF l[3]=38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 FF FF FF FF l[4]=38 38 41 47 4F 4F 4F 4F FF FF FF FF l[5]=45 45 4F 59 59 59 59 59 FF FF FF FF l[6]=6A 6A FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF l[7]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF l[8]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF l[9]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF l[A]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF l[B]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[0]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[1]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[2]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[3]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[4]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[5]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[6]=FF FF 5F FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[7]=FF FF FF FF 6F 78 78 78 FF FF FF FF n[8]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[9]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[A]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF n[B]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF k[0]=14 1E 28 32 3C 4B 5A 69 FF FF FF FF r[0]=05 0A 0F 14 1E 28 32 40 FF FF FF FF h[0]=01 02 04 08 10 20 40 80 h[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 h[2]=00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 b[0]=28 30 38 40 48 50 58 60 FF FF FF FF t[0]=20 40 17 80 A0 C0 E0 FF ---- http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/megasquirt200507080255.msq http://sly.gotdns.com/images/scope.gif Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... 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