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'''General motors 24X trigger system''' '''Background''' This trigger is used on the very popular LS1, LS6 engine and many other V8 engines in this engine family. All these engines are popular to retrofit in cars as it is very light and weigh less then many four cylinder engines. We should try to support it properly. It is very hard to modify the secondary trigger angle on these engines to get it exactly between the primary trigger pulses. '''Problem''' It works fine on 48+1 trigger on most cars. The cam sync trigger is however a bit too close to the primary trigger pulses and it sometimes cause a race condition. This seem to have become worse on 1.1.88 compared to the results seen on 1.1.76. The primary trigger has 24 pulses per revolution where the falling edge of the trigger signal is at 15 deg intervals and the pulse length of the logical '0' is 12 or 3 degrees. As the pulse density is high and the difference is fairly large I think that we can detect this reliably even when cranking. The sync is possible in 90 deg. '''Solution''' We need to make the engine time the engine from the primary trigger and only use the cam sync sensor for sequential operation. The secondary trigger can possibly be used to simplify starting at low battery voltages. The 24X trigger pattern look like this: http://www.vems.hu/files/JorgenKarlsson/24X/LS1_crank_timing.jpg http://www.vems.hu/files/JorgenKarlsson/24X/LS1_timing_chart.jpg The pattern can be broken down to this: <code> # x Low High 5 x Short Long 1 x Long Short 3 x Short Long 2 x Long Short 2 x Short Long 3 x Long Short 1 x Short Long 1 x Long Short 1 x Short Long 5 x Long Short </code> If I only specify the length of the logical '0' we get: 0deg to 90deg: 12,3,3,3,3,3 90deg to 180deg: 12,3,3,3,12,12 180deg to 270deg: 3,3,12,12,12,3 270deg to 360deg: 12,3,12,12,12,12 The cam sync has a 360 crank degree duration and will change from 0 to 1 or 1 to 0 around 0 crank degrees. The spec sheet say that it should do it at 0 deg but in reality it occur a few degrees from the previous falling edge of the primary trigger. At least of the engines I have run a trigger log on. This engine family also use a trigger type called 58X which is what other manufacturers call a 60-2 trigger wheel. For example the LS2 engine use this trigger.
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