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'''Janno Kusman''' I'm software developer(Java) in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinn Tallinn/Estonia]. I own a [http://nscw.kolhoos.ee/janno_200sx_s13 Nissan 200sx s13] with CA18DET engine(1.8T twincam 4cyl 16v) with lot of bolt-on mods. Currently it uses standard ECU that has been modified with EPROM emulator and custom maps in it. I'm also co-author of Nissan CA18DET chip editing software [http://nscw.kolhoos.ee/ecuedit 1] I want to help with adding/improving support for InputTrigger/NissanTrigger and testing it on my car. I hope to get help from Silver who owns Opel Kadett C with MegaSquirt 2 and who has also written some code for MegaSquirt 2 (we work in same company). Although Nissan standard ECU is programmable through EPROM emulator, it doesn't have support for wideband lambda and datalogging and also some functions are still unclear (ecu self learn function and ignition retard on detonation). It would also be fun to add some advance functions to VEMS as traction control, bang system and full throttle shift (cut ignition). ---- '''''Nissan ECU description''''' '''Nissan Trigger (CAS)''' The Nissan CAS is located on exhaust camshaft. From Nissan 200sx s13 service manual. Manuals for s13/s14 are http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/horsham-developments/manuals/ http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/6876/cas3oy.jpg '''Crank Angle Sensor''' ( The crank angle sensor is a basic component of the entire E.C.C.S (''Nissan name for E.C.U''). It monitors engine speed and piston position, and sends signal to E.C.U to control fuel injection, ignition timing and other functions. The crank angle sensor has a rotor plate and wave-forming circuit. The rotor plate has 360 slits for 1 deg signal and 4 slits for 180 deg singal. LEDs and photo diodes are built in the wave-forming circuit. When the rotor plate passes between the LED and the phot diode, the slits in the rotor plate cintinually cut the light being transmitted to the phot diode from the LED. This generates rough-shaped pulses which are converted into on-off pulse by the wave-forming circuit, which are sent to the ECU. --- On trouble diagnoses pages of manual says (EF & EC-121) that on ECU pins 41, 51 (CAS reference signal) voltage should be 0.6-0.8V and on pins 42,52 (CAS position signal) voltage should be 2.0 - 2.6V. --- On manual page EF & EC-124 CAS: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1826/caspins6rd.jpg Check voltage between terminal A, and terminal B and groug while rotating the CAS shaft as shown. At this time make sure that injector operating sound can be heared. Voltage 0V and 5v appear alternately. So A and B are sync signals C is battery from ECCS relay and D is ground on CAS ---- '''CA18DET Direct Ignition System''' Coil over spark http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/3610/ignition3os.jpg Ignition type is dummy, as ECU manages dwell(there are maps in standard ECU, that set dwell) and firing. ----- http://www.route6.co.jp/products/ems/emstorisetu.htm has some intresting info on page 22. If individual Nissan coils on plugs set Dwell to 1.75mS. Nissan set the position of this sensor to give the standard Nissan ECU a + Trigger edge at b 60 BTDC. Same document says that this is also true for Nissan SR20, RB20, VG30 and CA18 engines. http://www.hitman.hm/nissantrigger.htm is different, saying that trigger edge at 45 BTDC. ----- http://www.wolfems.com.au/products/enginemanagement/wolf3d/version4and4plus/version4installshortcut describes trigger/sync triggering. ---- '''Conclusion on InputTrigger/NissanTrigger''' After reading some docs, I would say that Nissan uses trigger/sync triggering. Nissan trigger system is similar to multitooth/missing tooth system, but implementation is bit different (wrong: its other way around). Trigger signal on 1 and 180 TDC (actually 60 deg before TDC) and 180 sync signals for each crankshaft turn. Trigger signal cylinder is determined by length of trigger signal (at least on CA18). Could someone confirm my conclusions? http://200sx.jagenheim.se/images/trigger.png --- Here is one picture of signal (cant remember, where I found it). Its probably for SR20 engine http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/5950/signal3ff.gif --- It's also possible to modify input trigger with Autronic trigger disks http://www.autronic.com/page_files/trigger_disks.htm, but that costs ~$70 (USD) --- Also info on InputTrigger/NissanTrigger: MembersPage/FredrikJagenheim MembersPage/PhatBob
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