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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: AutoData catalog says I do have cam pos sensor data (at least in motronic), should be able to measure ~0.5V, few ms (it should be a few degrees instead, right ?) spikes with every second crank rotation. I couldn't verify that without a scope or notebook soundcard (yet). I've checked resistance but it's like a wire, I couldn't see any more than some 0.1ohms, which is well in the error range of my digit multimeter. Please make a few more measurements with different cam phase. A typical HALL sensor (unipolar, 5..15mT, digital output with internally applied hysteresis of 2..4 mT ) would short output to GND when B>Bthreshold and open collector otherwise. At least when powered with (usually 5V, rarely higher) supply. *I'm not sure what you mean, this is a coil over ignition wire, don't know whether it's anything like hall. Note ! This 'so called' CAM reference sensor is inductive coupled to cylinder 6 ignition wire (from distributor) ie. signal gets generated when cylinder 6 spark is fired. ---- It is very likely that they used this pickup to provide input signal to an off-the-shelf (RPM gauge) tachometer. The same way we use a few turns of wire around a coil HV wire to get signal for OnlineCourse/AlienIgnitionLogging This is interesting question - since in schematic (E30 -89, with M20B25 engine) it seems that tachometer is wired directly from Motronic ecu (engine speed output from Motronic ECU connector pin 6, black wire to instrument cluster pin 7). This could be used as a cam position sensor if the distributor is maintained (but than cam position is not interesting at all). In case * wasted spark is applied (highly recommended) the cam position from the given wire is not needed (and not available anyway) * fully sequential ignition (COP) is applied (eg. for IonSense), something (a small HALL or optical sensor) inside the remains of the distributor (where distributor is not used for distributing spark any longer) could be used for cam-sync. I guessed it's a cam pos signal because VR signal already exists (to drive RPM gauge?). Wiring is quite stock form (has a plug in a socket to 2 plugs and wire goes to the original harness). I've seen such a sensor on other similar BMWs also. Nevertheless, I may or may not use this signal, we'll see. Motronic uses bank injection (2 banks for 6 cyls), so cam signal is not needed for that. Even if the 6 injectors are fired individually, cam signal is not needed (unless timed sequential injection is applied and tuned to squeeze the last bit of economy and emissions). *News: It has been confirmed by BMW fans that this is "called" a cam position signal, that appeared in motronic 1.3. ** it's definitely not a real cam position sensor, since it depends on igniting through the distributor. A real cam position sensor should be able to work with direct ignition as well. Fortunately, wasted spark does not need camsync. * Question is: What injection setup is the default for motronic 1.3? (Batch? Semi-sequential?) ** does it matter ? If the injector wires are in good shape, measure them and use them. Otherwise make a loom that supports fully sequential (it can still be configured in SW to fire in 2..3..6 banks). Original (Motronic) injection setup is batch firing (in two batches of three injectors simultaneosly). http://quasar.dynaweb.hu/~lezsi/bmw/original/PICT0016-cam-sensor.JPG (The ring on ignition wire near to distributor) The connection to harness: http://quasar.dynaweb.hu/~lezsi/bmw/original/PICT0017-cam-sensor-plug.JPG http://quasar.dynaweb.hu/~lezsi/bmw/original/PICT0019-cam-sensor-plug2.JPG Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.