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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: Because of contradiction between information from the same Subaru manual, start with '''Cam info'''. This helps to decide what is more likely around the crank. '''There is a camsync pulse 45 crank degrees before Cyl 1 TDC, then the second comes 135 crank degrees after TDC''' Camsync: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/Denmark/Vems%20pnp%20Impreza/subaru2001-camwheel.jpg The relative position of the cam (having the camsync pulse coming inside the middle of the long gap) was a reasonable decision. Now this crank arrangement makes more sense than the contradicting other: * 36-2-2-2 setup (36 crank teeth, missing 2 teeth BTDC Cyl 1, and 2 teeth twice before BTDC Cyl 3). ** Seen on North American 2.2L SOHC plants (99-01 model using 2 teeth cam wheel) as well as other 2.0L/2.5L Turbo plants (most using 4-1 cam wheel) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/Denmark/Vems%20pnp%20Impreza/subaru2001-crankwheel.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/Denmark/crankwheel1modi.jpg just tell me the direction of rotation ! '''clockwise or counterclockwise ?''' Consider * which side of the engine this is mounted **mounted on the front * with which face outward **pic is from the backside * which dir the engine rotates **rotates clockwise The '''timeline on the drawing above and below are contradictory''' and this information is needed. '''Our implementation assumed the above photographed wheel rotates COUNTERCLOCKWISE so the double long gap is followed by 13 tooth, not 16.''' '''If anyone scopes the real thing please write here: ....''' Crank Sensor pattern: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/Denmark/Vems%20pnp%20Impreza/subaru2001-crankwheelpic.jpg The choice to have the long gap detected at 30 BTDC and 0 TDC is weird. * for fastest sync during cranking, 40 BTDC and 10 TDC would make most sense. * for most precise timing during the whole range (and also for programmer's convenience) 90 BTDC and 60 BTDC would make most sense On both pics with the wheel, it turns anti-clockwise. The engine runs clockwise, but the pic is of the back of the wheel. We can look at it as 15+3,3+12+3 * TDC is 30 crankdegrees after the single missing gap ** in other words, TDC is the 4th tooth after the single long gap ---- Subaru 36-2-2-2 '''implemented with camsync''': derived from c012 * |http://www.vems.hu/download/v3/firmware/experimental/ 1.1.78 experimental] ** start from a sane config, than at the bottom of primary trigger dialog click the subaru configlet (so primtrig subaru mode), than change: ** nr of tooth on wheel = 12 (yes, not 30 !) ** tooth width = 30 degree (=3 * normal tooth) ** another_trigger_tooth=6 if 4 cyl *** (3 if 8 cyl, but assuming 4 cyl here) ** '''reference tooth from top to bottom: 0 18 12 6 ''' ... ** optional: disable camsync. *** But beware: it is ment to work with camsync. Might or might not be possible to set up to operate without camsync. With COPs, use camsync as ign-dualout overloads COP ignition coils easily. Than burn, and might need to reboot. Please measure+figure how to set trigger tooth and TDCdelay. (tooth 0 is after the long gap after the group of 16 normal tooth). ---- '''Test pattern''' Here is a [http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/JasonRussell/Subaru/subaru_36-2-2-2_trigger-invert.zip wav file] (with CamSync. Inverted to play properly. 670 RPM ?) * this wav does not match the above spec ** the campulse comes in the first long gap, not the second. But it changes even within the file. The first crank rotation was good. The second crank rotation had the wrong number of teeth after the double gap. A cut and paste error. *** Note the wheels in the above diagrams rotate '''anti-clockwise''' since those pictures are looking at the back of them. That may be some of the confusion. So starting at tooth 0 you have 13 pulses, gap, pulse, gap, 16 pulses, gap, and you're back at 0 again. ** Marcell reversed in time, than also had to invert in audacity so the camsync pulse comes in the first long gap (not before it!). Than sectrig-triggerlog showed pulsetrain is reasonable for some testing. ** 2010-06-16 and newer VT also plays 36-2-2-2 in "Tools/Play Trigger" if s362 type is entered manually (even if it's not in the combo, it can be entered) ** now the '''2010-06-15 experimental 1.1.76 seems to act properly (36-2-2-2 with camsync). Can be tried on bench or engine.''' Of course, it would be wise to scope the real thing. * Jason can get it to trigger with camsync disabled, and can enable camsync and the rpm becomes closer, but trigg errors. If you stop stim signal it will not register rpm again with camsync enabled. Here is a [http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/JasonRussell/Subaru/v3.3_n002843-2010.06.13-00.20.52.vemscfg vemscfg file] of the setup described above (trigger settings) In Jason's engine there is the possibility of using a 4-1 cam signal. It's for the 2004 WRX STi variable cam system (disabled on this engine for now) and those sensors are still there but unused. We should figure out the 2 pulse camsync, but if the 4-1 is easier to handle quickly, I'm ok with that. There is a 4-1 on each cam, but I expect it's sufficient to just read one of the two (just like this 2 pulse cam trigger). Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.