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'''Runout''' Some factors can impact VR trigger quality. '''The amplitude of tooth pulses is not equal''' This is a common error with homemade trigger wheels that have a long deep gap at the missing tooth (this results in a higher amplitude around the missing tooth). Professional wheels have a continuous depth-change at the missing tooth, full depth is only reached at the middle. Examine a 60-2 Bosch wheel. '''triggerwheel is not centered on the shaft''' Sine wave will '''modulate the VR signal amplitude''', so the arming threshold becomes important, especially at high RPM. If in doubt, record VR signal with scope or your notebook soundcard. '''Variation in individual tooth-height just makes the problem worse'''. Mik was the first to experience such problem when he patched his original (quite exotic) 18-1 + 18-1 crankwheel with a surgery for normal 36-1 tooth. The added tooth had smaller amplitude than the original teeth. ---- '''Soundcard can be used to record VR signal''' WhatEverYouDoYouDoItAtYourOwnRisk !!! (take care of your soundcard) * voltage divider with 10..22k and 1k resistors * series cap > 100nF (220nF is perfect. Most soundcards have internal cap, but it doesn't hurt to have one just to be safe) Since the VR signal amplitude can be quite high (especially at high-RPM, often >30V), the line-in input should be preferred to the mic-input. With mic-level input a much higher divider can be used, eg. 100k and 1k. * Some playing with the mixer is always needed to get a wav with desired amplitude * at idle the signal must stay below 10% amplitude so it stays within limits at high-RPM. ---- '''LM1815 arms at about 0.8 * peak''' Note that the 20% safety margin in the VR chip isn't shown. '''The margin should eliminate any runout problems on a multitooth triggerwheel, but if the teeth for some reason result in a 20% amplitude difference there will be trigger problems'''. ---- This is a simulation of a four tooth triggerwheel at 3k (V8). The trigger occur when the VR signal fall down past 0v. The trigger is armed for the next trigg after going higher then the blue trace. http://www.vems.hu/files/JorgenKarlsson/TriggerV8@3k.jpg 60 tooth at 3000rpm http://www.vems.hu/files/JorgenKarlsson/Trigger%2060tooth@3k.jpg The same triggerwheel, with the same runout at 6000rpm. As you can see the margin between the ARM threshold and the VR signal has decreased. http://www.vems.hu/files/JorgenKarlsson/Trigger%2060tooth@6k.jpg ---- '''Notes''' * the pictures do not show modulation correctly, they are using addition instead of multiplication in function VR(t) = sin(t / t0) * (1 + 0.2 * sin(t/(36*t0))). Since only the peak is important, and the negative peak is not, this changes nothing * I couldn't easily simulate the missing teeth but that doesn't change anything * LM1815 datasheet says typical arming treshold is 80% of peak value, but worst case is 90%. (deviance to the other direction, 40% does not cause problem). Should we measure this characteristics of each LM1815 during board testing ? If someone want to waste some time on simulating this better: http://www.vems.hu/files/JorgenKarlsson/triggersim.zip ---- '''Proposed solution''' * workaround, that can be tried instead: jumper LM1815 3-pin jumper for non-adaptive mode (eg. pin5 to +5V for max arming threshold). Risk is that VR trigger signal amplitude will be too low at cold cranking. * min 100k (150k recommended. 220k sounds a bit high, but it would work) '''resistor in series with C38''' (C38=220nF). This is an onboard modification for v3.0 .. v3.2. Easy to '''do cleanly with the following step:''' * unsolder C38 (if you find it hard, get help, use 2 solderers, or cut it first) * cut the trace (between GND and the 3pin header) nicely. On the pic, this is under the capacitor near "C". Scratch the solderprotect at the 2 ends of the tracecut * and solder (new, from the GenBoard/VerThree/RescueKit) 0805 size ** SMD 100k resistor (on the pic, this is the resistor near "R"). A pad from the LM1815 3pin SMD jumper is reused, and a pad from where C38 was removed from. ** solder C38=220nF capacitor over the tracecut (on the pic near the "C") http://www.vems.hu/files/genboardv3/images/v3.2/C38_series_resistor_0010_m.jpg Note that a similar solution is the '''standard factory-populated setup since v3.3''' - no modification needed. As a side-effect, this decreases the maximum tolerable noise somewhat, but it's fine with any reasonable quality VR signal and is a big help for those with irregular wheels. ---- '''See also''' * InputTrigger/TriggerLog
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