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=== Honda F20 === From the S2000, this is now a popular engine conversion into older cars and Lotus 7 replicas as it is an RWD engine. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/sportcarae/s2000%20swap%20pics/P1017888.jpg There are 12 equally spaced teeth 30 degrees apart, with an additional tooth positioned ~20degrees after one (~10degrees before the next). The engine turns clockwise (apparently this is the only Honda VTEC engine that does) so the trigger pattern is: ..., 30, 30, 10, 20, 30, 30, ... Suggesting that this trigger cannot be used with InputTrigger/ShortGapTrigger (See below). Missing tooth with advanced filtering, setting missing tooth threshold between 1.5 (30/20) and 2.0 (20/10) could work, if it starts with 1.75 it will run too (the wildest relative acceleration happens during cranking, because of the low RPM). Maybe the '''trigger could be turned over''' and refitted which would give the pattern: ..., 30, 30, 20, 10, 30, 30, ... * Which '''could''' make the missing tooth setup work correctly, at least in 1.0.x (without advanced filter, or with advanced filtering and ~200% threshold ?). In 1.1.x (<= 1.1.95) the timing from last pulse could interfere with the extrapulse in certain situation so would require careful benchtest.... or rather: '''Now the proper 30, 30, 10,20, 30 ... setup is implemented''' (along with any similar "extrapulse setup"), also with camsync in 1.1.96. Now under testing. ----- did you try with missing tooth setup * if gaps are 30,20,10,30 (in this order) ** try a '''simple missing tooth setup''' ** since 10=>30 is more than 1.5 x even multitooth advanced filtering is not needed ** another_trigger_tooth=06 (if 4 cyl) If gaps are 30,10,20,30 than a variation of InputTrigger/ShortGapTrigger that is not yet supported, I think (because it would also require shortgap at the next event to be fired, 180 degrees later in a 4cyl) ---- '''TODO: Configlets should be made for:''' * ...30, 30, 10,20, 30, 30... 12+"extrapulse" crankshaft wheel * 180, 180, 30,150, 180 ** 4+extrapulse like the [http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=85125 Honda K20A] cam * '''120, 120, 40,80, 120, 120, 120''' ** highly suitable 6+extrapulse trigger on truck camshaft (eg. in producer-gas 1500/1800 constant RPM applications where timing-from crank has marginal advantage - especially that cam is gear-driven (no sloppy belt). ** Faster starting can still be achieved with the help from a good crankwheel trigger (like 36-4 rover k4 MembersPage/YasecElise), but these powerplant engines run all the time, and startup rarely anyway. * 0(30), 120(90), 240(90), 360(90), 480(90), 600(90) rising-edge-absolute-position(pulsewidth) both-edge sensing HALL-only ! ** given that homemade setups are reasonably HALL-type, 6 pulse with one lengthened or shortened pulse also makes sense for custom-machined wheels. ** this needs firmware mod for sure. ** Obviously the 6+extrapulse is better option when made from bolts. In factory applications the missing tooth wheels are better choices (and actually mostly used: better timing and diagnostics can be achieved without stricter wheel-precision requirement), but '''for home-made setups the low toothcount (often bolts) are usually appealing.''' ---- ''' Bench test results''' * Fw 1.1.96 supports as extrapulse trigger ** without camsync use configlet 4cyl_12+extra_Honda_Nocamsync (configure as 12 tooth coil-type + extra pulse trigger enable, ref tooth table 0, 6, 0, 6) ** with camsync use configlet 4cyl_12+extra_Honda_Camsync (configure as 12 tooth coil-type + extra pulse trigger enable + maximum edges between secondary edges = 2, ref tooth table 0, 18, 12, 6) * VemsTune trigger play support ( from VT newer then 2011-07-28 ) as h124 ( h: Honda 12 : 12+1 primary trigger 4: 4+1 secondary trigger) * Tested [http://www.vems.hu/files/MembersPage/HondaF20/extrapulse_h124_benchtest.vemscfg Benchconfig]
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