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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: === Honda F20 === From the S2000, this is now a popular engine conversion into older cars and Lotus 7 replicas as it is an RWD engine. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/sportcarae/s2000%20swap%20pics/P1017888.jpg There are 12 equally spaced teeth 30 degrees apart, with an additional tooth positioned ~20degrees after one (~10degrees before the next). The engine turns clockwise (apparently this is the only Honda VTEC engine that does) so the trigger pattern is: ..., 30, 30, 10, 20, 30, 30, ... Suggesting that this trigger cannot be used with InputTrigger/ShortGapTrigger (See below). Missing tooth with advanced filtering, setting missing tooth threshold between 1.5 (30/20) and 2.0 (20/10) could work, if it starts with 1.75 it will run too (the wildest relative acceleration happens during cranking, because of the low RPM). It does look as if the '''trigger could be turned over''' and refitted which would give the pattern: ..., 30, 30, 20, 10, 30, 30, ... Which '''should make the missing tooth setup work''' correctly (after the 10,30) Marcell sees absolutely no reason why it should not work. ----- did you try with missing tooth setup * if gaps are 30,20,10,30 (in this order) ** try a '''simple missing tooth setup''' ** since 10=>30 is more than 1.5 x even multitooth advanced filtering is not needed ** another_trigger_tooth=06 (if 4 cyl) If gaps are 30,10,20,30 than a variation of InputTrigger/ShortGapTrigger that is not yet supported, I think (because it would also require shortgap at the next event to be fired, 180 degrees later in a 4cyl) ---- '''TODO: Configlets should be made for:''' * ...30, 30, 10,20, 30, 30... 12+"extrapulse" crankshaft wheel * 180, 180, 30,150, 180 ** 4+extrapulse like the [http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=85125 Honda K20A] cam * '''120, 120, 40,80, 120, 120, 120''' ** highly suitable 6+extrapulse trigger on truck camshaft (eg. in producer-gas 1500/1800 constant RPM applications where timing-from crank has marginal advantage - especially that cam is gear-driven (no sloppy belt). ** Faster starting can still be achieved with the help from a good crankwheel trigger (like 36-4 rover k4 MembersPage/YasecElise), but these powerplant engines run all the time, and startup rarely anyway. * 0(30), 120(90), 240(90), 360(90), 480(90), 600(90) rising-edge-absolute-position(pulsewidth) both-edge sensing HALL-only ! ** given that homemade setups are reasonably HALL-type, 6 pulse with one lengthened or shortened pulse also makes sense for custom-machined wheels. ** this needs firmware mod for sure. ** Obviously the 6+extrapulse is better option when made from bolts. In factory applications the missing tooth wheels are better choices (and actually mostly used: better timing and diagnostics can be achieved without stricter wheel-precision requirement), but '''for home-made setups the low toothcount (often bolts) are usually appealing.''' Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.