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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: BMW has many different [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VANOS VANOS] systems. Only the M car engines have dual solenoids. The most interesting app is the '''double-vanos with 4 solenoids and 3 VR-sensors''' * because all others are simpler ** the changes seem trivial: HALL signal is simpler than VR, disabling third trigger and changing "secignore" if necessary - easy after capturing triggerlog * if you have '''3 VR sensors, write in the order comment:''' "secondary=VR and thirdtrig=VR capable to trig even a lower amplitude ~70% extrapulse". ** before we found the torn flywheel-dampener in the test-engine, we suspected InputTrigger/RunOut above 6500 RPM (which wasn't the case). Doesn't hurt to specify this anyway. ---- Fero reported that '''Double VANOS works perfectly''' * it '''follows the target cam position perfectly''' ** '''intake and exhaust''' cam follows target nicely and revvs and pulls like a charm. * it is actually easier to set up than the PWM type actuator (eg. suzuki), because with the 2 solenoids per cam only direction has to be right (PID tuning not required) * but high-side driver was required (so the protection-diode need not be removed from the solenoid-connector) ** a 4-channel low-Z-extension board was modified (4 tracecuts) to act as high-side PFET driver. Using 10k Rgs resistor, and driven from p259 (or other) outputs (p259/0,p259/1 and p259/6,p259/7, remember: pairs must be neighbors), with 510 Ohm. ** high-side driver is also required for Honda, where the solenoid has 1 pin grounded to the body '''Information needs some cleanup from''' * MembersPage/GunnarReynisson/VariableVanos * MembersPage/JasonVoytilla/BMW/Vanos especially trigger setup and initial cam-position target tables. ---- The intake VR polarity was originally wrong (rising edge) * interestingly, the intake actuation worked that way too. After swapping the intake-cam VR polarity (LM1815 likes VR falling edge on its input): http://www.vems.hu/files/Fero/BMW_M3/BMW_S52_doubleVanos_correctIntakePolarity.png Note that * '''exhaust-cam''' (which is 6+1 pulse) is connected to '''secondary trigger, the +1 pulse is toothcount=2''' * '''intake-cam''' (6 evenly placed pulse every 120 crankdeg, tooth_cnt=4,24,44,...) is connected to '''third cam''' (therefore "exhaust target" table is relevant for intake). ** Originally 1 pulse was inside the missing-gap, so this is different: 1.1.97 implementation was changed to allow separate "measure tooth" parameter for sectrig and third trig ---- '''Watchout''' When doing the test-install, we've seen several things that caused problem. This list is useful for installers. * the '''4 hydraulic solenoids must be powered from a strong supply'''. ** When power was stolen from insufficient node, TPS was raised by +0.3V when engine started (which the ECU showed correctly +8% .. scary!). * the intake-VR (connected to third trigger) was reverse polarity. The signal looked perfect in triggerlog, and the engine worked perfectly, intake-cam position measurement was good and intake-cam control was good also. ** It only showed up on scope. Still, it's best to have it right. Only "Motorsport/camshaft angle control/third trigger measure tooth" had to be changed when polarity was corrected * '''flywheel dampener was torn''' ** now we also understand why the engine behave better when it was cold (in first tuning session the problem didn't appear, than the flywheel-dampener deteriorated) ** '''prevented revving over 6500 RPM''' (ECU showed "less primtrig" trigger-error and exhaust-band). This gave us some headache for some time (especially after we've seen that setup with bench-RPM >11000 still didn't rev over 6500 on real engine). * the 2 exhaust cam solenoid outputs were swapped originally. Setting any target angle other than extreme low (0) or highest (200?) => fluctuations started ** swapping the output wires fixed the issue. ---- '''Historical:''' Before we identified the torn flywheel dampener (see above) we didn't understand what caused the trigger-error and unintentional "6500 RPM revlimit". We made intensive benchtests until the bench-RPM was beyond 11000 RPM, the VR-adaptive-hysteresis minimum ("runout") was well below 60% and all was confirmed good. From engine-recorded ~1190 RPM triggerlog, Marcell extracted a 16 second section: http://www.vems.hu/files/Fero/BMW_M3/BMW_doubleVanos_correctIntakePolarity_nicePart.zip * this, speeded up ("600%" and "700" percent in audacity) 7 and 8 times respectively, played in endless-loop, '''triggered v3 perfectly on the bench (~8400 and ~9600 RPM respectively), including sectrig position measurement''' (3d trigger was not saved into the stereo wav by VemsTune triggerlog dialog), with '''no trigger-errors or RPM dropouts at all'''. ** later we made 3 trigger benchtests also, and found it good beyond 11000 RPM ** something is not right around the exhaust VR of the actual engine, because RPM occasionally drops to 0 around 6500 RPM. Maybe amplitude is too high ? (around +-6V at 1200 RPM, likely amplitude more than +-30V at high RPM). This is regardless of the intake cam (third trigger enabled/disabled) ** but this problem was not there earlier - we thought because the engine was earlier running off of primary trigger only, but it turned out the flywheel dampener was torn when compressor was coincidently removed at the same time when sectrig and thirdtrig was connected ! ** we made firmware modification in the triggerlog code to only send the missing tooth primtrig (not all 58 teeth) at high RPM so we see all sectrig and thirdtrigt events in 115200 baud triggerlog upto 9000+ RPM. ** of course, stronger exhast-VR pulldown did not help either. ** fixing the real problem, the torn flywheel dampener helped Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.