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'''This page documents several types of coil over plug items.''' ---- '''Subaru''' I've got some COPs for a Subaru. Here is an [http://www.kikine.com/nick/cars.jpg hi-rez image] Part number: 22433AA330 http://www.vems.hu/files/COILS_COPS_etc/subaru_cop.jpg Diamond (denso logo; made in Japan) F-645 12V Use with transistor ignition 9002530 (this is a build or serial number as they are all different) There are 2 wires on the unit. Yellow and red. Resistance is 0.9 ohms - in both directions (?). There is infinite resistance between the ground screw and either of the 2 leads. Very likely, this must be a dumb coil. Can you measure inductance? Apply 0.8 .. 1msec dwell (first, only increase dwell if results justify) (with some sparkgap there) and measure current rampup with scope or DVM (check DummyIgnition): * Apply a 0.1 Ohm series R (or a calibrated wire) to measure current rampup with scope * apply a known constant freq and known constant dwell and measure supply consumption with DVM: the max current (and therefore L) can be calculated. ---- '''Subaru''' Part number: 22433AA421 Diamond FK0140 is used on many Subaru models: http://www.vems.co.nz/aviation/fk0140.jpg Dwell is said to be 3 ms according to [http://www.linkecu.com/support/dlandswupdates/TechInfo/WiringAndInstallation/I14 Link Electrosystems], along with a suppression capacitor. It is a 3-pin design with internal ignitor: * Coil positive on Pin 1 (with the raised edge) * Ignitor ground on Pin 2 (in the middle) * Ignitor positive on Pin 3 (at the clip end) * Coil ground on mounting bolt. COIL ON PLUG FK0140 Features: * Integrated coil driver circuit with diagnostics * Fast primary and secondary rise times allow for multiple strike capabilities * Very high weight – energy ratio for maximum performance efficiency * Design provides reduced RFI * Precise electronic timing * Over 150,000 mile durability * Robust electrical connection to the spark plug * Reduced under hood complexity and enhanced engine appearance * Waterproof primary connector * Coated laminations for corrosion resistance * Greater packaging flexibility with reduced assembly costs * Energy adaptable for high demand combustion requirements * Tooling required Specs: ||||||||Output Voltage |||||| Spark Energy || || Primary Break Current |||| Output Voltage || Secondary |||||| Spark Energy @ Vz = 1,000 Volts || || ||25pF Load||25p-1M Load||Rise Time*||Current||Duration||Energy|| ||6A||28 KV||19 KV||11.2 usec||53 mA||1.0 ms||22 mJ|| ||8A||33 KV||23 KV||10.2 usec||67 mA||1.1 ms||28 mJ|| ||||||||||||||Open Circuit Voltage: 39 KV @ 6 break Amps 44 KV @ 8 break Amps|| http://www.vems.co.nz/aviation/coil-dimensions.gif How best to drive this one? ---- '''VAG''' http://www.vems.hu/files/sly/cop_mm.jpg http://www.vems.hu/files/COILS_COPS_etc/vw_cop_06b905115e_sch.gif The above is active coil, since it has the switching internally. 1J0 973 724 is the 4-pin plug for the VW coil 4D0 906 232 is the 3-pin plug for the VW coil For passive coils (ment for inductive apps), you can measure appr 0.4 .. 1 Ohm on the primary winding (at least in one polarity, but usually both) I heard some of these part numbers might be the connector, not the transformer. Double check. The coil in the 1.8T 20V (1998-2001) is called 058 905 105 (3-pin?). I think Dave, Jorgen and Sly collected info about many (mainly VAG) TODO: find it in the wiki and move or link. I'm afraid they dumped it (zzz) to some MembersPage (or even irc). A [http://vagner.jeje.je/bilder/albums/album113/AEB_ignition_schematics.jpg A4 schematic] that uses these kind of transformers. ---- '''VAG TFSI coil''' Has anyone successfully used these coils? * Bosch "0 986 221 023" * VAG 036905715F * Commonly used on VAG (VW/Audi) TFSI engines (year 2000-2010?). The pinout is as follows : * Pin 1: ECU Ground * Pin 2: Engine block Ground * Pin 3: 12 volts + (switched) * Pin 4: Signal from ECU Note : * I've connected pin 1 and 2 to the cylinder head. * The resistance between ground and the signal pin is 370 Ohms. * The signal is attached to stepper output. I can't get any spark. * The pinout is _different_ from the VAG 115 coils, still same connector - beware! Coming next : * I will measure voltage at the signal pin * Stepper output is what I've used so far * Maybe logic level +5V output with 250 Ohm limiting resistor will work better? http://www.bjprace.com/webshop/image/cache/data/Tandning/vagkort3-600x600.jpg http://www.bjprace.com/webshop/image/cache/data/Tandning/vagkort2-600x600.jpg http://www.bjprace.com/webshop/image/cache/data/Tandning/vagkort1-600x600.jpg ---- '''See also''' * back to IgnitionPage * DummyIgnition
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