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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: Important information. [http://valasztas.hu/dyn/pv18/szavossz/hu/eredind.html official election result data] - you can find the numbers there. * if you need some help (small Perl program) to analyze official detailed data of more than 10k files (or archived snapshot of the official site), take note here on this wiki page. '''Overview:''' * 5658444 votes at 18:30 (see [http://valasztas.hu/dyn/pv18/szavossz/hu/napind.html official data] showing 68.13% of [http://valasztas.hu/dyn/pv18/szavossz/hu/dont.html 8305363]) * 5325376 [http://valasztas.hu/dyn/pv18/szavossz/hu/hatar.html votes at the end of the voting] after 19:00 ** so '''how did votes disappear by the hundreds of thousand ? ''' '''CONCLUSION: the official report is the primary evidence that the election was fraud''' "Vote" here means votes cast on parties (the election system also has votes cast on regional "individual candidates", roughly in same numbers: not included here) ---- '''Recommendation to "democracies" around the world:''' Think about crypto-hardening the system, that are low cost, and can provide proofs. Traditional election systems can be manipulated in several ways that (usually) cannot be proven. '''Miracle: Winning more than 2/3 of seats, while more than 50% voted against them'''. Most people are unsatisfied with the result. The '''Hungarian Government Party Fidesz-KDNP claims to have won (2506609=) 48.89% of votes''' * actually the claimed value is 48.00 % if not counting the HungarianElectoralPurchasedVotes purchased for taxpayer's money), and '''got''' 134 seats (which is '''67.35% of 199 total seats''') ** editor's note: their support is about 35% realistically, the biased statistics show 41%, those that consistently, repeatedly proven (on ALL 6 mid-term elections) to show an extreme bias in favor of Fidesz-KDNP * just more than 66.67% of mandates (parliament seats) which means '''they can tweak any law, and do basically anything like a dictator, while claiming "democratic authorization" '''. ** they previously '''tweaked the election law in their favor''', to allow this outcome, and win more than 2/3 of parliament seats even with just 40..49% of votes in their favor. ** they made it extremely difficult for about half million people to vote (eg. in UK, and USA : only 1 physical place in the United States of America to vote: no electronic or snailmail voting) ** they made it extremely simple for hundreds of thousands of people to cast their votes in snailmail, who were given subsidy from taxpayer's money before - and as the voting results show * and they can avoid prosecution for their high crimes of the last 8 years. ** with the magnitude of the high crimes the regime has nothing to lose, manipulating an election is no worse than being prosecuted ** the media was systematically acquired by the Fidesz-KDNP party between 2010-2018 The '''election was a fraud in multiple obvious ways'''. It should be obvious by looking at the numbers: * even according to the reported Also in several non-obvious ways. Even if we neglect those, and only consider the obvious ways, the only conclusion is that the election was a fraud. '''2018-04-08 was an extremely nice sunny Sunday, number of voters was obviously record high, as reported by authorities (only the number of voters is reported before 19:00, not any other partial results)''' The midday data that indicated that more than 71% of 8305363 voters voted. However, somehow '''the number of voters after 18:30 was negative''', according to official reports. Average number of votes: appr 6% / hour ( very low between 6:00 and 7:00 and reasonabetween 7:00 and 19:00). http://valasztas.hu/dyn/pv18/szavossz/hu/napind.html * 7:00 2.24% * 9:00 13.17% * 11:00 29.93% * 13:00 42.32% * 15:00 53.64% * 17:00 63.21% * 18:30 68.13% (* '''8305363''' = '''5658444 voters casted their votes''') However, the '''reported voting results show total 5325376 votes, so even the official results clearly show more than 333000 votes lost. More realistically by the end of voting 71.5% ( 5938335 estimated) votes cast and appr 600000 votes lost). Analyzing the reported vote data I personally found it difficult to find any other contradicting evidence other than the number of votes lower than the election voting numbers reported by same authorities. Unfortunately the voting procedure is intentionally extremely low-tech. No cryptography, no cameras. Guess who guards the boxes that contain the votes. There is no hope that recounting the papers would reveal what actually happened. No parliament has any authority before the whole election is repeated. An election must not be conducted according to the Election law and rules of Fidesz-KDNP which they simply inaugurated in favor of themselves. ---- After '''19h CEST''' no more voters were allowed to queue, but those in queue were allowed to cast their votes, which lasted till 23h. * During any previous elections (1989,1994 ... 2014) partially results flew continuously to the media * after counting the votes, voting officials were locked in their building at many places, not allowing any information in and out. ** complete darkness in the media ** all kinds of anomalies, from computing system crashes, (improvised revert to 8 year old central computing system that probably have been tweeked ?) ** This is unthinkable, there is no legitimiate reason for arresting officials to publish their numbers. ** no news were allowed (unlike previous parliament elections) * Some crime happened between '''19:00 and 23:00, indicated by the number of votes decreases. This alone clearly shows the election was a fraud.''' See * HungarianElectoralFraudOtherCircumstances * HungarianElectoralPurchasedVotes related '''Hungarian URL-s''' * in a smaller district [https://444.hu/2018/04/10/van-olyan-szavazokor-ahol-csak-a-fidesz-listaja-kapott-ervenyes-szavazatot 100% of valid list-votes favor Fidesz-KDNP], while the immense number of individ(ated) votes (exceding the number of valid list-votes) show cheating. * http://nemgogol.blog.hu/2018/04/09/zorog_a_haraszt_663 ** repeated computing crashes happened around 19:00, that indicate appr 745000 votes (very possibly, and realistic). Unfortunately (since https is bogus), messages are not signed, it cannot be proven (screenshots of photos, videos captured can be forged). ** even the '''official report''' shows negative nr of votes after 18:30 '''clearly proving the fraud'', the exact volume of this part of the fraud (almost certainly between half million or near 800 thousand votes) cannot be determined exactly. Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.