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IMPORTANT: enter the case-INsensitive alphabetic (no numbers) code AND WRITE SOME SHORT summary of changes (below) if you are saving changes. (not required for previewing changes). Wiki-spamming is not tolerated, will be removed, so it does NOT even show up in history. Spammers go away now. Visit Preferences to set your user name Summary of change: '''Old page''', effecting a few installs (4 known) with secondary-trigger HALL signal actually used with the first few v3.3 of a batch at the very end of 2005. Fixed immediately, including the remaining boards of that batch and any later batch. So this is historical... '''When to replace C103 and why''' On v3.3 series, with the introduction of the InputTrigger/AudiTrigger, the secondary_trigger section was reworked to allow the 3-signal trigger system. Unfortunately a component, C103 was populated with 220nF instead of 1nF. Confusingly, on the GenBoard/VerThree/Schematic, C103 looks like 1nF because of the 1nF text that in fact belongs to C33. A closer look reveals this, but it was discovered a bit too late. Since many setups only use the primary trigger, or use just the VR part of secondary_trigger, this was discovered late. Note that during simple hardware testing, the secondary trigger signal did reach the AVR. The recommended thorough OnlineCourse/OffEngineTesting, over the RPM range detects if the installed secondary trigger is affected. '''When secondary_trigger HALL signal is actually used''', either just the HALL or together with the secondary VR (in InputTrigger/AudiTrigger setup), abnormally high 220nF value for C103 (together with the 10k resistors) causes a delay in the HALL signal: the falling edge (and the rising edge too if the HALL uses push-pull-output, but that is very rare) is delayed by appr. 1.7 msec, and when the HALL becomes inactive, the rising edge is delayed by an even larger appr 2.5 msec. This is too much delay to be neglected. While a firmware fix might be possible, the hardware fix is recommended when the secondary_trigger HALL signal is actually used. '''Hardware fix''' * '''remove C103 or replace with 1nF''' ** only necessary if the secondary trigger HALL signal is actually used, but for new installs, best to do it in any case, so this is the standard. Assembled controllers sent out after 2005.12.31 have C103 replaced. * at the same time, R182=0 Ohm (blob, instead of 100k) can be applied. This slighthly improves noise immunity when secondary trigger VR is used (usually with only 1 pulse per camrotation). With the right tools, it might be replaced without unclamping the controller but it would resemble a gynecological operation. Might be simpler just to... : '''Unclamping the controller:''' * remove 4 screws, and the endplate * examine and mark (with permanent pen, and a paper drawing) the clamping plates' direction * remove 4..6 screws, and the 2..3 clamping plates * remove 4 screws and partially slide the ECM out of the Alubos case '''do not slide out fully, just 35mm'''. ** If you'd like to pull out fully (which is not needed in this case), if PS2 or other cable comes through the endplate, the endplate needs to slip through the Alubos too. * remove / replace C103 * carefully slide the ECM back into the Alubos. Take care FETs / IGBTs are not bent. Gently push the FETs/IGNTs down slightly to slide into the Alubos. While sliding in, small force applied on the board (through the frontplate) in the right direction pushes it so the FETs/IGBTs slide in with little or no force and no danger of bending. * assemble in the reverse direction. With the clamping plates marked, it's not hard. Apply good lighting conditions * before screwing the endplate back on, examine (good lights needed!) that the clamping is complete, and clamping plates do not touch the econoseal connector pins. See GenBoard/Manual/InputTriggerHardWare for the full trigger setup. ---- '''if you are affected''' Write the * board serial number * WebShop orderid * link of your MembersPage wiki page that explicitely describes (/mentions) the trigger requirements of the project. Note that for v3.x the trigger setup must always be part of the basic documentation / planning (because the hardware must be setup accordingly). Any customer who plans his setup properly enjoys serious advantages during install / support and in this case it shows up as a monetary advantage as well. '''Customers who bought non-assembled v3.3 board in 2005''' You'll get 10 Euro discount from next WebShop purchase: Just mention this, affected board serial number and orderid in the order note. If you documented (see note 1.) that you plan to use HALL secondary_trigger (/camsync), link your details here and '''you get 50 Euro discount''' from next WebShop purchase (see note 2.) * '''board serial nr, orderid, wiki link to project''' * ... '''Customers who bought assembled v3.3 controller in 2005''' You'll get 30 Euro discount from your next WebShop purchase: Just mention this, effected controller serial number and orderid in the order note. If you documented (see note 1.) that you plan to use HALL secondary_trigger (/camsync), either just HALL or both secondary_trigger HALL and secondary_trigger VR (in InputTrigger/AudiTrigger setup), link your details here and '''you get 120 Euro discount''' from next WebShop purchase (see note 2.) * '''controller serial nr, orderid, wiki link to project''' * ... Alternatively, instead of the discount for next purchase, you can send back the purchased assembled controller for a C103 modification an we'll do the modification for you at no charge, and ASAP. The shop will send back the controller immediately to the required address. Please contact the WebShop before sending controller. '''If you happen to sell your v3.3 controller, please always inform the buyer: pass him the document of the C103 status and any modification you applied, and the original setup/specs of course'''. '''Sorry for the inconvenience.''' ---- '''Notes:''' # before 2006 Jan 5, 01:00 GMT # purchase above 118 Euro (value calculated without EC-xx harness) # For distributors who get discount for their purchase volume, the above mentioned discounts are ment for the original value (for a distributor in the 10% discount tier, 100 Euro * 0.9 = 90 Euro applies instead of 100). Optional: Add document to category: Wiki formatting: * is Bullet list ** Bullet list subentry ... '''Bold''', ---- is horizontal ruler, <code> preformatted text... </code> See wiki editing HELP for tables and other formatting tips and tricks.