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'''This page is for hardware developers, for finding matching connectors''' ---- '''Strategy of similar pages''' * WBO2 and injector connectors (that need to mate some standard) are on this page * SealedConnectors is a similar page with free-chosen board-wire and wire-wire connectors. * ConnectorSelection/Tyco part-search tricks and caveats * ConnectorSelection/Molex http://www.molex.com/ also has automotive grade connector. Our favorite dealer ships molex items. Apparently not as many suitable connectors as tyco. * ConnectorSelection/Tools crimping, pin extractor ---- '''Yet to sort''' Part numbers or family names here: * '''sealed''' Wire-Wire connectors ** Molex MX150L(T) is comparable to AMP superseal 1.5 series but is available in 2..10 pin versions vs. AMP 1..6 pins ** AMP SSC (sealed sensor connector) rated up to 10amps * PCB-wire ** Super Seal 1.0mm (~7 AMP currents) ** From molex couldn't find sealed PCB connector similar to EC36. But they have best w-w solutions when JPT or weatherpack is not a constraint * We should also stock [http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=19360&P=121918,2648&M=PROP&LG=1&I=13&G=G&N=2 wire labeling products] better than this link :-) ---- '''Mate-N-Lock''' A very nice and economical sealed connector series for up to 15 (3x5) contacts, 19A each. [http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?S=17578&P=247,290,69815&M=PROP&LG=1&I=13&G=G&N=10&IDS=182,191,386,387,174087,174088,174089,174090,174091,174092,174093 parts that can be panel-mount or free-hanging]. Other than white is nice (white is too common, associates to the cheap computer supply connectors). ---- '''[http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=17458&F=0&M=CINF&GIID=0&LG=1&I=13&RQS=M~CONTAINS^C~1^PN~%20282767-1^button.x~21^button.y~7 Tyco Timer series overview]''' * '''Maxi''' is just too big for us * '''Standard timer''' series is a bit big (17A at 90C). * '''Junior timer is a must anyway''', eg. for injector and WBO2 (see below) * '''micro-timer''' is a bit small (4..5A at 90C) for the high-power signals, but very nice for most ECM signals. Read below for timer connector applications that are essential. See SealedConnectors for applications where timer family is optional (such as ECM thingy). ---- '''Junior (power) timers''' (see below). Also very suitable for engine-bay wire-wire solutions and for wire-to-board [http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?M=CONTAINS&C=1&PN=825213&LG=1&I=13&button.x=26&button.y=6 ECM] or [. Centerline is typically (always?) 5mm There are several types of equivalent '''WBO2 Connector''' This is the image for the WB02 DELPHI connector http://www.vems.hu/files/grmracer/Conn.jpg There is also a connector available from Audi. The part number is 000-979-133-a. Although it is likely that this housing is also manufactured at tyco, we could not find this with the tyco representative. But this means little: probably due to broken narrowing (see ConnectorSelection/Tyco) we could not find items that were known to exist. '''Injector Connector''' This is the pdf of the DELPHI version '''this is the same as the injector side''' http://www.vems.hu/files/grmracer/12186060_CUS01_S01.tif.pdf http://www.vems.hu/files/connectors/delphi_injector_like.gif This is the AMP/Tyco catalog page as you can see the Junior timer and the Junior Power timer have different part #'s http://www.vems.hu/files/grmracer/ENG_CAT_124794_0393_26_.tif here is another page http://www.vems.hu/files/grmracer/ENG_CAT_889759_1101_35_.tif Junior Power Timer pin http://www.vems.hu/files/connectors/power_timer.gif Junior Timer pin http://www.vems.hu/files/connectors/timer_pin.gif AMP/Tyco page describing the different types of Junior Timer housings Type A (early type) Type B (slight improvement) Type C finally one with a push button clip http://www.vems.hu/files/connectors/injector_plugs.gif '''Should we order 2800 of type C?''' The (tyco) shipping times and prices (factor of 2) vary a lot by color for these recepticle housings. MOQ=2800 (I was told 500 earlier) for all colors. Eg. the 0-0828657-6 ships in 9 weeks. '''No fit on my 1998 Honda Civic injectors''' Let me note that the (C-type) sample did not match the port injectors my Honda Civic. Anybody have links of other apparently similar but different injector-connectors? According to [http://www.msdignition.com/fuel_5.htm MSD] ''"In 1996, the year of OBD II, the wiring connector on the fuel injectors used on Honda and Acura engines was changed. Therefore, MSD's Sport Compact Injectors will not accept the factory harnesses."'' The connector for the MSD injectors is the "standard" type (fits Denso, Bosch, etc). [http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=720 HKS] lists two injector connectors, a "2E" type and Bosch type. No pics though. http://www.vems.hu/files/grmracer/ENG_CAT_124794_0393_24_.tif ----------------------- Basically from what I have to gleam about the 2pin Junior Timer connectors is they fit on most Fuel injectors and all over standard 2 wire sensors from Bosch. !JasonRussell stated that both the junior timer and Junior Power Timer both fit nicely on the standard Bosch injectors. The drawings shows the pins are the same. *'''NOTES''' Add your own stuff clean it up. The connectors are manufactured by AMP and designated "junior timer" or "junior power timer". The two are inter-changeable, but the power timer version is better;the terminal design is a lot more robust. Note though that the terminals are not interchangeable across ranges - only use "power timer" terminals in "power timer" housings and vice versa. Sizes covered include 2,3,4,5,7 way and also larger 15,25 and 35way which are used on the ECU (25 for Ljet) Part numbers for power timer housings: 2way - 282189-1 3way - 282191-1 4way - 282192-1 5way - 282193-1 ---- '''HELP needed''' Tyco buying list We must make a '''tyco buying list'''. Please help to fill in '''part numbers (and product links''' if you're there!) of all necessary items (we have JPT recepticles, maybe that can be left for later) * JPT wire2wire housings (WBO2 was not found at tyco, if you run into it during search, don't forget to tell) * injector: should it be the C or B type? * matenlock: I think this is deliberately not pushed by tyco since it has very nice I will have to query exact terms (price, MOQ, shipping time), so those cannot be considered for now. Naturally, it can have items not needed now: just to query. JPT receptacle: 0.5-1sq.mm, 1.4-2.1mm isolation, no seal,tin plated,964283-2(CuSn4) 964283-1(CuFe2) I found a local supplier that can ship most accessories used for automotive stuff: rather expensive, fast, but MOQ=1 It would be nice if anything they stock was orderable. The hard part is to import their article-master into our facility (ofbiz). I got the prices electronically, but only color paper catalog: lotsof scanning needed. I think we only import (manually) the fuse and relay boxes for now.
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